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JayhawkSD

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7. I did not say that, and you know it.
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 11:47 AM
Oct 2014

I said it is not up the the patient to say, "I think I have Ebola."

It is up to the patient to answer questions asked by doctors, but not to provide informatyion that is not asked. He does not know what is relevant. That he was in contact with a sick woman is certainly relevant, but it was the responsibility of the health care worker to ask if such contact had happened. He was asked if he had been in Liberia and he answered, "Yes."

Yes, absolutley, doctoring is done through "hunting, pecking and puzzle work." That is exactly how it is done. By asking questions, examining the patient, finding clues and putting those clues togetrher because the doctor knows what clues to look for and the patient does not.

The doctor does not, in fact, want the patient spouting a long list of information, most of which will be irrelevant. He does not want to know, for instance, that your bowel movement was oddly colored last Tuesday, or that it was "a little bit loose" on Thursday when he is examining you for trouble breathing. He knows what he needs to know and he will ask you for the information he needs.

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The Ebola patient and denial - [View all] hedgehog Oct 2014 OP
Hes only human, and given he sought medical attention and... Anansi1171 Oct 2014 #1
The road to ruin is paved with inattention seveneyes Oct 2014 #2
I agree treestar Oct 2014 #3
It's not up to the patient to tell medical professionals what he thinks he has. JayhawkSD Oct 2014 #4
it is not up to the patient to give relevant factual info in his care? really? all doctoring seabeyond Oct 2014 #6
I did not say that, and you know it. JayhawkSD Oct 2014 #7
"I said it is not up the the patient to say, "I think I have Ebola." and i call BULLSHIT again. seabeyond Oct 2014 #8
He was told she had pregnancy related issues, not ebola. uppityperson Oct 2014 #14
that was one story from family. he drove with the family to the hospital with ebola ward. seabeyond Oct 2014 #17
I didn't know you were there with them, hope you stay healthy. uppityperson Oct 2014 #18
wow. i have watched this story shift, but wow. this is what we reduce it to. seabeyond Oct 2014 #19
You seem to have knowledge the rest of us don't. Excuse me for assuming you actually did. uppityperson Oct 2014 #20
the info is out there. it has been on plenty of thread. on phone now... seabeyond Oct 2014 #22
The pg woman's family said they told everyone she was miscarrying uppityperson Oct 2014 #23
i am sure that is the case. tell the liberia. then off the hook. giving info. do NOT seabeyond Oct 2014 #5
Everyone days he had the info. gvstn Oct 2014 #9
they knew it was ebola. they took her to a hospital that treats ebola, and ask to put her there. seabeyond Oct 2014 #10
He did not KNOW. gvstn Oct 2014 #13
i am talking, talking to a doctor when treated. and ya. you do not need a death certificate seabeyond Oct 2014 #16
The pregnant woman's family told the cab driver she was miscarrying. Barack_America Oct 2014 #11
maybe so the cab driver wouldn't drive off? magical thyme Oct 2014 #21
I have no idea where he got the money to purchase his air tickets, hedgehog Oct 2014 #12
I once had a bowling team partner that had a stroke while bowling. louis-t Oct 2014 #15
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