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1StrongBlackMan

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70. Okay ...

Thu Oct 9, 2014, 11:18 AM

Oct 2014

Police would routinely stop people who appeared to have a concealed weapon. It was a major tool for law enforcement fighting street crime.

What about off-duty police officers, working as security guards?

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Here we go again-St Louis policeman kills 18-year-old, reviving Ferguson tensions [View all] malaise Oct 2014 OP

“pedestrian check” = black person is guilty of something DontTreadOnMe Oct 2014 #1

No No...you have it all wrong CincyDem Oct 2014 #14

You left out the notorious WHWB... Lochloosa Oct 2014 #19

Police officer fatally shoots teenager in south St. Louis Sherman A1 Oct 2014 #2

Case of the missing Taser seveneyes Oct 2014 #6

cop says he tased him marym625 Oct 2014 #15

Where did you see that pintobean Oct 2014 #22

I'm looking marym625 Oct 2014 #29

I'm local* and have been following the story locally. pintobean Oct 2014 #34

I'm not making it up marym625 Oct 2014 #43

Cardinals Nation and the press are flooding St. Louis. pintobean Oct 2014 #46

One story says a 9mm Ruger was recovered. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #50

OH! marym625 Oct 2014 #63

I heard that last night too davekriss Oct 2014 #48

Did that report say pintobean Oct 2014 #51

It was an emotional report davekriss Oct 2014 #54

Maybe that's why I can't find it marym625 Oct 2014 #58

So, you're going to leave it pintobean Oct 2014 #94

I am not the only one. marym625 Oct 2014 #107

The comments section does NOT speak well for the citizens of St. Louis. Scuba Oct 2014 #7

comment section of what? marym625 Oct 2014 #30

... Scuba Oct 2014 #44

Sorry missed the link marym625 Oct 2014 #56

I just scanned a couple dozen of the comments ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #64

Lots of new comments since I posted, but here's some samples of the type that prompted me ... Scuba Oct 2014 #72

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #73

Witnesses say otherwise. marble falls Oct 2014 #10

They may be correct Sherman A1 Oct 2014 #13

You waiting for the final version from the cops? marym625 Oct 2014 #16

I have found that early press reports Sherman A1 Oct 2014 #42

Yes, it's always best to wait until the cop has had giftedgirl77 Oct 2014 #60

So, Sherman A1 Oct 2014 #62

A final version ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #66

We need to wait for all the facts to come in on that tree falling thing. bravenak Oct 2014 #77

ONLY IF marym625 Oct 2014 #85

Witness testimony though is known to be unreliable. cstanleytech Oct 2014 #24

Yeah, hosing off the crime scene is immensely preservative. Lars39 Oct 2014 #26

Why shouldnt they clean it? cstanleytech Oct 2014 #32

But had they already photographed and collected all they needed? Lars39 Oct 2014 #35

Why, do you have something that shows that they washed it away before they had what they needed? cstanleytech Oct 2014 #37

And may I ask the same? Lars39 Oct 2014 #38

Well I would say no since standard practice is they collect what they need before they clean cstanleytech Oct 2014 #47

That police department has shown that they don't adhere to standard procedures Lars39 Oct 2014 #49

So are you saying they should have removed the body before collecting the evidence? cstanleytech Oct 2014 #52

<snort> Lars39 Oct 2014 #53

Good luck. nt cstanleytech Oct 2014 #55

Yea that is suspicious yesiwasacop Oct 2014 #57

What about police testimony? malaise Oct 2014 #28

Its not anymore reliable which again is why you need physical evidence rather than just the sworn cstanleytech Oct 2014 #33

True ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #67

Especially Black witness testimony..... BronxBoy Oct 2014 #106

You mean to tell me . . . Brigid Oct 2014 #39

Sandwiches don't fire 9mm rounds. pintobean Oct 2014 #41

Aren't you just accepting (despite what witnesses(?) have commented) ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #68

Not even torpedos? MurrayDelph Oct 2014 #78

She's not a witness Travelman Oct 2014 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author Xyzse Oct 2014 #17

Was a gun found? 840high Oct 2014 #23

Yes pintobean Oct 2014 #25

Doesn't that sound a little suspect to you? scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #76

How long should it take? pintobean Oct 2014 #80

Are you saying shell casings or the bullets were recovered ? scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #83

I don't remember his exact wording pintobean Oct 2014 #87

If he said projectiles were recovered. scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #88

Here's his remarks. pintobean Oct 2014 #90

Okay I just watched it scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #93

With all the high profile stories of police brutality Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #95

As cops become more and more militaristic it won't be just the St. Louis community scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #97

I have to wonder if things have changed or if more people simple have cameras. Gore1FL Oct 2014 #116

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #128

"He had a sandwich in his hand, and they thought it was a gun" seveneyes Oct 2014 #3

"the man fired three rounds at the officer before his weapon jammed" Bonx Oct 2014 #65

when I was growing up onethatcares Oct 2014 #4

The chief said he is unaware of any video that captured the shooting Sparhawk60 Oct 2014 #5

I'm kinda with you.... Adrahil Oct 2014 #20

Handcuffed on your stomach gets you two years exboyfil Oct 2014 #27

Who is responsible for putting dangerous weapons into the hands of these psychotics we valerief Oct 2014 #8

Another bullshit stop. blackspade Oct 2014 #9

Another one. beemer27 Oct 2014 #11

K&R Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #12

WTF is a "Pedestrian Check?" Walking while Black? NT Adrahil Oct 2014 #18

Was just going to ask the same thing. City Lights Oct 2014 #21

It applies to all those Living while Black (LWB) malaise Oct 2014 #31

"Stop-And-Frisk" Feral Child Oct 2014 #40

That seems to be a practice ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #69

I think they're about to find out in St. Louis Feral Child Oct 2014 #101

Aye I was wondering the same so checked google and came across this cstanleytech Oct 2014 #59

Does that apply to off-duty police officers, working as security guards? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #71

Not 100% sure but I think it just might. I know about a week or two ago I read cstanleytech Oct 2014 #79

A concealed firearm often gives a specific bulge. ieoeja Oct 2014 #61

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #70

Yeah but if he did have a gun this was at night scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #74

Umm streetlights? Car lights? Lights from a store? Lights from a billboard? cstanleytech Oct 2014 #81

We have street lights. pintobean Oct 2014 #86

It's a fishing expedtion scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #89

Someone is lying, based on the past I would have to say it is the PD. Rex Oct 2014 #36

K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2014 #45

If they recovered a gun, I'll go with the police on this one. FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #75

I won't, committed no crime and was being chased by someone not in a police car. dilby Oct 2014 #82

...but was facing an unrelated gun charge, per the St. Louis Post-Dispatch brooklynite Oct 2014 #96

Which rent a cop had no idea about. dilby Oct 2014 #98

Do you have the link to that? scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #99

Here brooklynite Oct 2014 #100

thanks scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #102

They were both on foot and the officer was in uniform. FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #103

Can you tell if someone is in uniform at night with your back to them? dilby Oct 2014 #108

No one has eyes in tghe back of their head, the leos in that are don't deserve the benefit of the .. uponit7771 Oct 2014 #112

AMEN AND AMEN!!! Same thing happened to me as a teenager!!! No sign of LEO and chases uponit7771 Oct 2014 #111

At this point I would want more proof than just a weapon recovered being recently discharged scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #91

It's time to throw out all the police manuals and start all over again. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #84

My God, my developmentally disabled daughter has more common sense than the entire Ferguson, jwirr Oct 2014 #104

You might want to check your facts. pintobean Oct 2014 #105

So I see. But why do they always shoot to kill? When I was in college we talked about police who jwirr Oct 2014 #109

Because this is reality and not Hollywood. Travelman Oct 2014 #114

He was not busy shooting the officer. Also I'm an old lady and I do not remember a time when this jwirr Oct 2014 #115

I'm sorry, but you're simply not dealing with the facts. Travelman Oct 2014 #117

According to the police Matrosov Oct 2014 #119

Might be time for everyone here to review this tasty little morsel from our KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #120

The crash Unit harassed me and my friends. bravenak Oct 2014 #126

No, not according to eyewitnesses Travelman Oct 2014 #122

What I remember about the 70s and 80s is police brutality not shooting so many UNARMED people. jwirr Oct 2014 #121

This guy was not unarmed. Travelman Oct 2014 #123

So there were two incidents where he fired a gun at the police? jwirr Oct 2014 #124

AFAIK, he only actually *fired* last night Travelman Oct 2014 #127

You forgot one there. cstanleytech Oct 2014 #125

Shouldn't this be a simple investigation? GitRDun Oct 2014 #110

or the LEO did ID himself and began chasing 3 people in an unmarked while off duty. Same thing.. uponit7771 Oct 2014 #113

I'm a bit late to your thread. But your final comment in your original post KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #118