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66. I don't think it's about having no guts or being spineless, it's always been a self serving agenda..

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Oct 2014

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of the plutocrats. Always has been. Neo-Liberalism and Neo-Conservatism are virtually one and the same. We correctly call out Neo-Cons! on their monstrous domestic and bloodthirsty foreign policy edicts, but we fail to recognize that Neo-"liberals" are cut from same cloth. And they've been working their game for decades. It's become institutionalized.

More and more people though are finally removing the woolen veil from their eyes and shedding their rose colored glasses, no longer willing to sing the party line on command.

We voted for change and we didn't get that, but we shouldn't have expected it either. It's taken generations to undo FDR , and it will likely take another generation or more to restore much of what he accomplished and better.

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Center-right Democrats finally face a formidable challenge -- and that has them terrified [View all] NorthCarolina Oct 2014 OP

Recommended. H2O Man Oct 2014 #1

That's why it's also called Turd Way-because they're full of it. hobbit709 Oct 2014 #2

You don't fight amongst yourselves when there are barbarians at the gates Mister Nightowl Oct 2014 #3

What if "barbarian" supporters are in the house? socialist_n_TN Oct 2014 #4

Party before Principal has ruined both parties! pocoloco Oct 2014 #5

I don't think that the Third Way types are wimps...... socialist_n_TN Oct 2014 #27

Winning answer. Put there by DLC. SomeGuyInEagan Oct 2014 #74

^^^This^^^ n/t fredamae Oct 2014 #31

Agreed but 1st throw the 3rd Way douchbags who infiltrated Our house out as they're not one of US. Tommymac Oct 2014 #7

So this is my choice? amb123 Oct 2014 #9

" If the Democratic Party ceases to be a liberal, progressive, populist party and becomes the party kath Oct 2014 #17

At that point, the democrats might as well just join the republican party. Some, it seems, RKP5637 Oct 2014 #51

I don't think it's about having no guts or being spineless, it's always been a self serving agenda.. 2banon Oct 2014 #66

Yes, I agree, well said. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2014 #67

I hope you're not considering taking a powder on voting. bvf Oct 2014 #75

I agree. The Turd Way should stop undermining the real Dem party, immediately. Doctor_J Oct 2014 #43

It's necessary to expel the traitors from your midst before you can effectively fight the enemy. rhett o rick Oct 2014 #49

They're always at the gate. Union Scribe Oct 2014 #71

The Barbarians are IN the House, just as we thought. So we were right all along. Now it's time sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #73

So is Hillary one of the Barbarians? She'll talk the talk but will YOHABLO Oct 2014 #76

I think Will Marshall xxqqqzme Oct 2014 #6

PPI didn't drift right Jack Rabbit Oct 2014 #20

You are correct. xxqqqzme Oct 2014 #95

What happened to ... aggiesal Oct 2014 #8

I think "moderate voters" is code for wealthy political donors. NorthCarolina Oct 2014 #37

Because you cant win without them. 7962 Oct 2014 #59

Oh, OK. Let's alienate ... aggiesal Oct 2014 #61

Now you sound just like the tea party 7962 Oct 2014 #65

I sound like the tea party? ... aggiesal Oct 2014 #70

The TP constantly talks about the "base" and "RINO"s 7962 Oct 2014 #77

If you poll these so-called moderates on policy they choose progressive policy. MontyPow Oct 2014 #72

And you sure can't win without your base. And the country is liberal on issues as has been sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #92

How did catering to the "moderate" vote work out? ... aggiesal Nov 2014 #96

The Turd Way is a Joke PeoViejo Oct 2014 #10

Which is why I vote for/against policies and principles rather than party or politician. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #11

What I find interesting gvstn Oct 2014 #21

Yep. You have to sift through a lot of bullshit to get to the part about issues. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #23

Again??? wyldwolf Oct 2014 #12

Center right Democrats LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #25

That is the problem I have with "Centrists" or "Moderates".... bvar22 Oct 2014 #44

I think we shouldn't be distracted by the Democrat/Republican division. The real war is between rhett o rick Oct 2014 #50

Meanwhile Germany now offers free college tuition to American students. vlyons Oct 2014 #13

What exactly makes these people Democrats again? BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #14

I think the only thing that makes them Democrats is the "D" after their name. NorthCarolina Oct 2014 #38

I so agree with this MissDeeds Oct 2014 #57

Short answer: they think fiscal right and social left equals "NEW Democrat" now with 50% more Reagan Dragonfli Oct 2014 #81

Thank you, I thought your explanation was top notch! BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #82

??? moonbeam23 Oct 2014 #15

Think about it, if you are the ultra wealthy attempting to control government, can you NorthCarolina Oct 2014 #39

see post 81 above, their strategy (which includes calling themselves Democrats) is well known Dragonfli Oct 2014 #83

Chasing the mythical "moderate Republican" while ignoring the 50% of the electorate who don't .... Scuba Oct 2014 #16

"subterfuge policy enacted by conservatives who have infiltrated the Democratic Party" Nay Oct 2014 #24

It's nothing more than triangulation, Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #18

"Redistribution to achieve equality" is such unmitigated bullshit. stillwaiting Oct 2014 #19

"Democrats must capture the loyalties of moderate voters" LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #22

Unfortunately, it seems the guiding economic philosophy for the dem right doesn't HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #26

Excellent post, therein lies the flaw inherent in the Chicago school of economics Dragonfli Oct 2014 #84

Do you suppose our current state follows from the creation of a "non-productive" economy? HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #85

I am certain of it. It is all just a bunch of paper at this point fictionalized into profit Dragonfli Oct 2014 #86

Does that require monetary policy that limits the capacity of markets HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #87

It's a separate issue, a very serious one. Basically there are firms that gamble money they don't Dragonfli Oct 2014 #88

Well, thanks. HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #89

Same here, I was beginning to think I was the only one that noticed Dragonfli Oct 2014 #90

All lies. Especially now. joanbarnes Oct 2014 #28

Yes, we're supposed to shut up, eat our peas, Oilwellian Oct 2014 #29

Not eat our peas, shove them down our throats davidpdx Oct 2014 #79

Will Marshall sounds like a Republican. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2014 #30

My thoughts exactly! n/t Triana Oct 2014 #42

There was an alert on your post, unbelievably marmar Oct 2014 #32

Someone alerted on my post? I wasn't even infomed that such had occured. NorthCarolina Oct 2014 #34

Why is it impossible for them to speak their minds freely? ReRe Oct 2014 #56

I reserve the right to criticize bullshit policies whenever I see them, Maedhros Oct 2014 #36

The Third Way types are just mad Rex Oct 2014 #63

the best explanation marmar! 2banon Oct 2014 #69

Knowing what we know about FDR jeepers Oct 2014 #33

k&R liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #35

Priceless and very illuminating - "I thought this is DEMOCRATIC Underground not Left Wing djean111 Oct 2014 #40

DLC/Third Way/Center-Right == Republican. So Mr. Two-bit Twit insists . . . Triana Oct 2014 #41

Well this thread certainly brings out whistler162 Oct 2014 #45

So let's be clear LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #48

K & R Thespian2 Oct 2014 #46

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2014 #47

So let me get this straight humbled_opinion Oct 2014 #52

This is nothing short of Phlem Oct 2014 #53

I guess I missed what I am supposed terrified. I do not see any gain in trying to make the DNC Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #54

I reject the notion that center right is a democratic quality. Phlem Oct 2014 #55

America has gone to hell because the center right Democrats hijacked the Democratic Party AZ Progressive Oct 2014 #58

I cannot distinguish these people from Republicans anymore. Marr Oct 2014 #60

The problem with third way is that they have lots of complaints but no solutions. craigmatic Oct 2014 #62

Third Way is a sad group. Rex Oct 2014 #64

The thing is there is no "center-left" Fearless Oct 2014 #68

If you're any of those combos, the right considers you a liberal! 7962 Oct 2014 #78

So then there is no center right in our party Phlem Oct 2014 #91

Yes. Fearless Oct 2014 #93

Cowan, Kessler, and Marshall are not Democrats. blackspade Oct 2014 #80

The WSJ has been giving a forum to anti-populist shills for decades Populist_Prole Oct 2014 #94