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In reply to the discussion: According to your values, is illegally downloading a song, TV show, or movie immoral? [View all]Kaleva
(36,372 posts)135. Like the guy who took my car for his own use.
No crime was committed because he apparently had no intention of selling it.
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According to your values, is illegally downloading a song, TV show, or movie immoral? [View all]
ZombieHorde
Oct 2014
OP
I know how to download mp4s, can't download mp3s anymore. If the material is copyrighted or the
freshwest
Oct 2014
#9
Well, I still wouldn't download a Hollywood kind of movie. And I've got tons of DVDs that I bought
freshwest
Oct 2014
#125
As an added plug, there are lots of sites with all Creative Commons music, which is legal
Recursion
Oct 2014
#11
Creative Commons is a great tool for artists when the marketing industry has rejected them.
hunter
Oct 2014
#128
Morality police? What makes intellectual property different than any other kind of property?
badtoworse
Oct 2014
#33
So it's OK to break into someone's house and steal stuff as long as you don't fence it?
badtoworse
Oct 2014
#36
Well, one thing that makes it different is that stealing a physical object means taking it away
DanTex
Oct 2014
#40
Unless the owner of the IP has authorized its duplication, you are taking something from him.
badtoworse
Oct 2014
#43
Not really. You have to admit there's a difference between physically stealing something
DanTex
Oct 2014
#50
I don't see this as an "ethical pretzel". I think it's a good thing to reason things out in detail.
DanTex
Oct 2014
#98
If the song is no longer being sold anywhere, then ask permission of the owner of the rights.
Ms. Toad
Oct 2014
#95
You're only depriving the craftsman of payment if you would have been willing to pay otherwise.
DanTex
Oct 2014
#112
Just to add, in college, pretty much everyone I knew copied songs without authorization.
DanTex
Oct 2014
#52
Again, my suggestion is that you read up on IP Law and understand what the IP owner has authorized.
badtoworse
Oct 2014
#122
The person who originally paid. Who owns the CD or DVD uploaded? Same answer in a sane world.
whatthehey
Oct 2014
#55
By that logic Microsoft is "stealing" my income by making server products...
Recursion
Oct 2014
#149
Are you aware of how many people work in the industry that brings the movie to your theatre?
Beaverhausen
Oct 2014
#103
Artists should be government employees. Art should be government approved and funded.
FrodosPet
Oct 2014
#54
Well, that's why you need very high marginal rates on massive incomes.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Oct 2014
#74
You mean like in the erstwhile Third Reich or Soviet Union? Because that is what one gets.
WinkyDink
Oct 2014
#105
I hope you grow your own food. Manufacture your own cloth and turn it into clothing.
KittyWampus
Oct 2014
#110
Fuck artists and musicians trying to earn a living. I don't like paying for shit.
Throd
Oct 2014
#79
Money contaminates everything it touches with immorality. But I would say it's unethical.
hunter
Oct 2014
#81
yes, but i am not religious so i dont think all immorality is at the same level of sin.
La Lioness Priyanka
Oct 2014
#89
I can think of no crime so heartless, so cruel so sinister than illegally downloading a song,
Douglas Carpenter
Oct 2014
#102
Do you think every person who works at or supports the record companies is a highly paid exec?
Beaverhausen
Oct 2014
#118
what's immoral is to refuse to provide for free something that can be easily distributed for free.
unblock
Oct 2014
#126
I'd say that, in hindsight, we can reasonably say that home taping did NOT kill music.
Maedhros
Oct 2014
#129
Nope. I believe art is part of the public domain and shouldn't be held hostage by huge media conglom
cbdo2007
Oct 2014
#131
I had a very brief carreer as an artist in the music industry and file sharing killed it.
Glassunion
Oct 2014
#138