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Zorra

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144. The OP asked a question, and I answered it sincerely.

Wed Oct 15, 2014, 11:54 AM

Oct 2014

Last edited Wed Oct 15, 2014, 07:53 PM - Edit history (1)

My post in no way implies that I know how to overthrow the 1%.

I have ideas about how to accomplish this non-violently, but I feel no obligation to spend hours explaining them here.

I will say that I believe that the best way to start the process of overthrowing the 1% would be for all people of good conscience to get together and refuse to work, or buy anything, for one week.

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What should we do improve the lives of Native Americans? [View all] el_bryanto Oct 2014 OP

We should pay what we owe. Then they wouldn't need our charity. bravenak Oct 2014 #1

OK. How much does that work out per person? el_bryanto Oct 2014 #2

I would say cash payment of 2000 per month per person forever. bravenak Oct 2014 #3

That is about $124.8 billion annually el_bryanto Oct 2014 #7

I think we may have to ask them what land they want. bravenak Oct 2014 #9

That makes sense. Those territories would be ceded to Native American Nations, I am assuming? el_bryanto Oct 2014 #11

Yes. bravenak Oct 2014 #12

Looks like I missed something. el_bryanto Oct 2014 #16

We can always dream, can't we? bravenak Oct 2014 #17

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"they are good people" hfojvt Oct 2014 #19

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They never killed US off. bravenak Oct 2014 #21

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How dare they repel invaders! arcane1 Oct 2014 #27

+1 lunasun Oct 2014 #29

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They were invaders. How is that term "dehumanizing?" cyberswede Oct 2014 #32

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Ok, you're just doing this to turn me on, aren't you? PM me and we'll arrange a meeting. arcane1 Oct 2014 #39

"Migrants" who killed people and stole land. cyberswede Oct 2014 #40

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Uh huh. Keep digging. cyberswede Oct 2014 #50

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I repeat: put the dick down when posting on DU. arcane1 Oct 2014 #51

One handed typist, eh? uppityperson Oct 2014 #53

Sometimes they seem to enjoy it a little too much :) arcane1 Oct 2014 #57

Seriously, don't you ever get tired of this game? arcane1 Oct 2014 #33

There went the neighborhood! greatauntoftriplets Oct 2014 #34

Those poor Spanish, minding their own business. Natives would impale themselves on Spanish swords... arcane1 Oct 2014 #41

Someone needs to read "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee." cyberswede Oct 2014 #35

LOL!! bravenak Oct 2014 #37

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If I kick in your door, rape your wife, and kill your kids, can I call myself a "house guest"? arcane1 Oct 2014 #44

Nope... greatauntoftriplets Oct 2014 #47

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You're funny! cyberswede Oct 2014 #46

They should have just rolled over and played dead! greatauntoftriplets Oct 2014 #43

That's how devious they were! arcane1 Oct 2014 #45

Such sly foxes! greatauntoftriplets Oct 2014 #49

But there was a long history of native tribes killing it enslaving each other dbackjon Oct 2014 #71

And there is a long history of Europeans killing each other and everyone else off. bravenak Oct 2014 #72

so how long should the sins of the father be put on the descendants? dbackjon Oct 2014 #76

All debts must be paid. bravenak Oct 2014 #77

Paid by whom? dbackjon Oct 2014 #78

I am a descendant of slaves. I owe nothing. bravenak Oct 2014 #79

My ancestors were enslaved by the Holy Roman Empire. Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #90

Good for you. bravenak Oct 2014 #92

I Was Thinking RobinA Oct 2014 #126

My ancestors immigrated from Poland around 1930. Do I need to chip in? joeglow3 Oct 2014 #99

I said the government can pay. bravenak Oct 2014 #100

Yes. Gormy Cuss Oct 2014 #105

Do you regularly go buy something and then double the price a year later? joeglow3 Oct 2014 #109

If you find out that the good price was only offered to some people based on an immutable trait Gormy Cuss Oct 2014 #110

You're right. A better question is if you double the price of the house you grandparents joeglow3 Oct 2014 #112

Except that your grandparents got market price Gormy Cuss Oct 2014 #117

as long as some are benefitting from what the government took from those who lost it CreekDog Oct 2014 #95

Every American lives on land that used to belong to a tribe dbackjon Oct 2014 #113

because the decision has not been undone CreekDog Oct 2014 #115

What does it matter what my race is? dbackjon Oct 2014 #124

just because your ancestors fought slavery doesn't mean you haven't benefitted from being white CreekDog Oct 2014 #127

So I am supposed to feel guilty for being white? dbackjon Oct 2014 #128

i didn't ask you to feel guilty CreekDog Oct 2014 #130

No, I am reading correctly dbackjon Oct 2014 #131

again, you insist on feeling guilty for being white even though I didn't ask you to CreekDog Oct 2014 #133

Perhaps we could use federal lands ChazII Oct 2014 #56

I think that is a good idea. bravenak Oct 2014 #73

Why don't we start with other states like Texas dbackjon Oct 2014 #125

our local tribes have dividends from the casinos yesiwasacop Oct 2014 #119

So what? bravenak Oct 2014 #120

so giving them a check will fix virtually nothing yesiwasacop Oct 2014 #137

So, because some people you know don't need it, we shouldn 't give it to anybody? bravenak Oct 2014 #138

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You aint they daddy. bravenak Oct 2014 #140

BTW. African Americans are owed Trillions. We never got paid for 400 years. bravenak Oct 2014 #141

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At least take your dick out of your hand when you keep posting this crap. arcane1 Oct 2014 #14

Go the fuck home! bravenak Oct 2014 #15

First we should ask *THEM* hunter Oct 2014 #4

Thank you, you got to it before I could bermudat Oct 2014 #5

I didn't intend it to be patronizing. el_bryanto Oct 2014 #8

That is the first and only thing I was thinking. Most Native tribes have educated and very jwirr Oct 2014 #28

Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #66

Leave? WinkyDink Oct 2014 #6

OK - as individuals or as a group? el_bryanto Oct 2014 #10

Why would other countries agree to accept us? Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #22

Completely overhaul the Rez. New infrastructure, new schools, and new houses. NightWatcher Oct 2014 #18

Sounds like a good (and practical) start. n/t nomorenomore08 Oct 2014 #23

What about a casino that is run by the tribe itself? And by the way last I heard there were very few jwirr Oct 2014 #31

there are some great casions that help the communities, but there are NightWatcher Oct 2014 #55

Yes, I know about them. And they should either be cleaned up or closed. jwirr Oct 2014 #111

infrastructure is a good start. and schools mopinko Oct 2014 #70

Can You Give Examples? erpowers Oct 2014 #145

Whatever we come up with BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #25

Long-term solution: New states derby378 Oct 2014 #38

something really really expensive and really arbitrary Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #54

Give back the land we stole from them. n/t RebelOne Oct 2014 #58

Sell your property and give the proceeds to the nearest tribe. Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #61

Perhaps the focus should be on improving the lives of all underprivileged Americans Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #60

Unfortunately ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #67

The topic is Native Americans. Gormy Cuss Oct 2014 #85

. Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #87

That's ancient history. We're talking current events. Gormy Cuss Oct 2014 #89

Current events? Didn't you use the word "eons"? (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #91

Yes, eons. It's continuing to today. Not at all true for those of Irish ancestry. n/t Gormy Cuss Oct 2014 #94

are you having trouble keeping up? are you struggling with American history? CreekDog Oct 2014 #96

Please don't speak for us. Starry Messenger Oct 2014 #104

I'm both Gormy Cuss Oct 2014 #106

+1 Starry Messenger Oct 2014 #107

why are you ALWAYS telling us to not work on issues of racism? CreekDog Oct 2014 #88

oh and you know what else? CreekDog Oct 2014 #93

Except the person of Irish ancestry wasn't screwed out of their land Algernon Moncrieff Oct 2014 #98

But how much consolation is all of that Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #101

Those aren't exactly the problems Native Americans have Algernon Moncrieff Oct 2014 #116

Focus more resources toward non-reservation Native Americans. Xithras Oct 2014 #62

Find ways to utilize sovereignty besides gambling. KamaAina Oct 2014 #63

I say the starting point is ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #64

Maybe all us white people could commit suicide at once. name not needed Oct 2014 #65

So you're really going to make yourself into the victim here? Really? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #69

Boy - what a well reasoned rsponse - you first. nt el_bryanto Oct 2014 #82

In this vast wasteland of worthless delete_bush Oct 2014 #114

On a far less grand scale than most of the suggestions here... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #68

Thank you for this suggestion - actually I find this to be one of the best and most practical el_bryanto Oct 2014 #122

I'll give you one perfect example of how the Federal government fucks with Native sovereignty. scarletwoman Oct 2014 #74

Fewer restrictions on where they can build casinos LittleBlue Oct 2014 #75

You should probably talk to Harry Reid about that. n/t Calista241 Oct 2014 #103

I'm not really sure JonLP24 Oct 2014 #80

First, ask them what they need. Warpy Oct 2014 #81

The correct answer. kwassa Oct 2014 #102

+1 n/t Gormy Cuss Oct 2014 #108

This has been a common response el_bryanto Oct 2014 #121

I don't feel guilty, what happened, happened Warpy Oct 2014 #142

Given how we've been 'improving' their lives ever since Columbus... Lancero Oct 2014 #83

Take the Feds out of controlling reservations and... Kalidurga Oct 2014 #84

Let corporations set up tax-free or something on reservations if they employ a certain percentage madville Oct 2014 #86

Honor the treaties Algernon Moncrieff Oct 2014 #97

Go back to Europe? fadedrose Oct 2014 #118

Overthrow the 1% immediately and lay the groundwork for a society that Zorra Oct 2014 #123

I like this answer best. bravenak Oct 2014 #129

And what exactly do you mean by this? delete_bush Oct 2014 #143

The OP asked a question, and I answered it sincerely. Zorra Oct 2014 #144

We could start by taxing the uber-wealthy out of existence. hunter Oct 2014 #146

I do agree that a combination of an increase in the minimum wage delete_bush Oct 2014 #147

Not going to get much applause..... NCTraveler Oct 2014 #132

Provide what People need. Octafish Oct 2014 #134

Put the tribes in charge for a generation. Our democracy is shamtastic anyway. TheKentuckian Oct 2014 #135

First step - PR campaign KT2000 Oct 2014 #136

Are we including Hawaiians/Polynesians in this? Islandurp Oct 2014 #148

Yes and the ALaskan Inuit. el_bryanto Oct 2014 #149