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In reply to the discussion: To All the A**holes who are Insulting the Flying Ebola Nurse: Shut Your F***ing Faces. [View all]Iggo
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To All the A**holes who are Insulting the Flying Ebola Nurse: Shut Your F***ing Faces. [View all]
riqster
Oct 2014
OP
Ms. Vinson is a Registered Nurse with either a Bachelor of Science and an Associate Degree in
DhhD
Oct 2014
#79
She was sick and likely terrified, so she asked the supposed government experts
merrily
Oct 2014
#89
Your own post disproves "There is no way a reasonable person who had been exposed to ebola....
merrily
Oct 2014
#118
PS, trying for personal responsibility is something one does about his or her own behavior.
merrily
Oct 2014
#157
She was not sick, no signs of anything wrong with her ... 99.5 is a normal tempreature for a woman
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#116
According to webmd it's normal for temp to go up and down 1deg... 98.6 is average not static number
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#133
Again, my own experience is very different. What counts for purposes of this thread is what
merrily
Oct 2014
#146
Frieden's got to go, else the buck stops at President Obama's desk. Sorry, that's how it goes
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#140
I largely agree with you. Here's the problem as I see it. Frieden's first response
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#177
EXACTLY! The CDC should be giving test RIGHT NOW to everyone who was in her situation
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#135
Bravo! I tend to look somewhat askance at the Trotskyist WSWS but on this their
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#10
I'm not going to blame Amber Vinson solely, but I really have to question her judgement.
Sheldon Cooper
Oct 2014
#3
She had the fever on the flight home, why did she fly there in the first place?
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#76
You keep posting that, but it doesn't make it any less true that she was worried
KitSileya
Oct 2014
#199
Its fact, there's nothing wrong with posting that she had no signs she was sick and followed rules..
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#201
But she was monitoring her temperature, and she was concerned enough about it to call the
Sheldon Cooper
Oct 2014
#13
Then that means she goes to quarantine for jogging? ... cause that's what could
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#20
And I would assume that, AS A NURSE, she'd be able to tell if her temp increase
Sheldon Cooper
Oct 2014
#25
No, not at all... a 1deg temp rises could be from ovulation to pregnancy to mestrual period for a
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#38
What?! 99.5 isn't even a temerature, the whole premise of her having signs is dead wrong I don't car
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#45
+1, the cdc cleared her because there was nothing wrong. 99.5 is normal for a woman NOT showign
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#63
How do you know the temp was in connection with the CDC call? My understanding is she just called...
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#186
99.5 is NOT a fever for a woman!! In connection to means she called BECAUSE of the temp not called a
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#198
Again, I'd be willing to bet good money that NONE.. NONE of those cargivers signed up for a "...live
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#39
Those caregivers didn't have to sign up for it - public health demands it from them.
KitSileya
Oct 2014
#58
"..Those caregivers didn't have to sign up for it -..." lol... that's great to say after the fact!!!
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#69
WHO is says its 42 days now... and " everyone he came into contact with had to limit their contact .
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#99
Thx, so basically these people got to sit out life for a month and half until the REAL "all clear"..
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#113
Where did you read she was worried about her temp? She called teh CDC to see if she could travel
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#127
I might get contagious and infectious mixed up (English is my second language)
KitSileya
Oct 2014
#143
Hey, if you just want someone to blame she's an easy target but given the facts of the matter there
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#78
Yes - it isn't the temperature itself, but the rise of it that is the concern.
KitSileya
Oct 2014
#104
I agree on the RISING temp, there's no proof that she called the CDC in connection with her temp
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#214
There's a tiny little part of me that wishes every R.N., LPN and Nurse's Aide would
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#148
Yes, ... I agree.. take responsibility after being FULLY informed.. .FULLY... I'm STILL thinking
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#181
I can understand the emotional pull on her to attend the wedding but sh*t happens and
CTyankee
Oct 2014
#40
She wasn't attending a wedding. She was planning her wedding, which is to take place
Sheldon Cooper
Oct 2014
#43
There was nothing wrong with her, 99.5 is a normal temperature for a woman ... why would she take
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#54
Yes, that's what webmd said... 98.6 is the AVG temp... human body temp is not a static number
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#187
She is not an epidemiologist. At every step, she did what experts told her to do.
merrily
Oct 2014
#170
Only thing I can think of is that it shifts blame from the CDC to this poor soul.
merrily
Oct 2014
#218
The "Kiss up, punch down" post, or were you thinking of another fumesucker gem?
merrily
Oct 2014
#229
When it comes to a registered nurse who did everything she was supposed to do,
merrily
Oct 2014
#236
As you can see from my posts on this thread, that is not my opinion of Vinson.
merrily
Oct 2014
#263
It's obvious to me that the hospital was not as firm with the ones who were exposed
SoCalDem
Oct 2014
#270
Not only that but what message is being sent to future caregivers? When ebola comes your way run?
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#4
No, just that health care givers should be given the choice of lifestyle... I'm sure
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#34
I think it's a bit different: this is because her employer was incompetent and negligent.
riqster
Oct 2014
#47
First I would get HC Givers the choice if they want to be involved in the restrictions, give them
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#172
I would ask if anyone out there has passed along a virus unintentionally
world wide wally
Oct 2014
#5
I don't think the question is, have you ever unintentionally passed along a virus?
Sweet Freedom
Oct 2014
#30
Not only that, there was technically no signs of anything wrong with her. 99.5 is not a fever
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#52
+1, but but... some talking head claims that 99.5 is a fever for a woman and DUr's take it like it's
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#60
With all due respect, no she didn't. This is a matter of basic common sense.
Sweet Freedom
Oct 2014
#142
Crap. Unless you are a nurse, medical practitioner or epidemiologist, you have no business throwing
riqster
Oct 2014
#167
I would say that I consulted medical professionals instead of projecting my assumptions
riqster
Oct 2014
#242
Given the facts? OF COURSE!! If I want to look at facts, common sense starts with common knowledge
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#173
It's here on DU and it's fucking disgusting. Thanks for posting this rebuttal, not that
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#7
Yes, people ARE bashing nurses and this ones judgment when FACTUALLY there were NO SIGNS of anything
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#49
People don't use their own common sense. We bow down to authority because we are convinced
Pisces
Oct 2014
#15
Quarantined herself while THERE WAS NO SIGNS OF ANYTHING WRONG?! You're kidding...
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#50
That is a normal temp for someone who has not come in contact with Ebola!! If you were directly
Pisces
Oct 2014
#162
She was not directly exposed, there's no proof of that... where are people getting this from!?
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#202
THis is a life lesson. You have to trust your own common sense, she was obviously uncertain and
Pisces
Oct 2014
#245
Did you know that in 2009 the head of the Texas Presbyterian hospital chain made
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#151
No they are not quarantined. They are doing self monitoring and that's it.
totodeinhere
Oct 2014
#33
If you have a source showing she talked with them prior to the trip, I'd like to see it as what I've
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#81
You are correct. She asked the CDC to for permission to fly back to Dallas and
totodeinhere
Oct 2014
#131
also, 21 day self observation != stay away from society. Im sure that's not what these people signed
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#35
No,... we disagree on the facts there... No one signed up for Agent Orange... but they did sign up
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#180
+1, I place the onus on the hospital...not even the CDC...that place should NOT be paying someone...
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#206
We got whiffs of that during the coverage today. When it was pointed out that
calimary
Oct 2014
#250
+1, there was nothing wrong with Amber ... 99.5 is normal temp for healthy WOMAN.. for a guy maybe
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#62
She had been exposed but no signs of anything being wrong with her including the NORMAL temp of 99.5
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#91
Apparently, 99.5 isn't normal for her or she wouldn't have called the CDC.
LostInAnomie
Oct 2014
#100
Not the case, she could've been taken the extra step... I would've and if cleared would've
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#108
There was NO WAY she could've known that she was exposed to the diseases vs exposed
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#141
What!? She is a nurse that has been exposed to the bodily fluids of a known ebloa patient.
LostInAnomie
Oct 2014
#149
I'm disputing useing the world "exposure" here because it's obvlious, it could mean anything and...
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#184
All the A**holes who are Insulting the Flying Ebola Nurse: Shut Your F***ing Faces
The CCC
Oct 2014
#68
This is false, she was not sick and 99.5 is a normal temp for a healthy woman. Talking heads calling
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#82
There were no signs anything was wrong with her, 99.5 is NOT a "temperature" for a healthy woman...
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#85
They couldn't be bothered with it so long as it was perceived to be a (mostly)
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#134
Yes, that's why I posted an OP yesterday... basically people said we'd have to be swimming in
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#92
"She put her life on the line".. so I get that means she can put everyone else's life too!
TerrapinFlyer
Oct 2014
#97
Why? There was NOTHING wrong with her, No signs of sickness, told the disease isn't contagious
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#111
She did NOT have a fever, that's what talking heads are saying and not a medical fact.. There were
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#120
Please show proof that she KNEW she was infected? Exposed could mean ANYTHING it's too oblivious...
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#176
How was she "exposed" to ebola using the same examples?! SHE WASN'T!!! Exposed is WAY to oblivious..
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#192
Are you assuming she *doesn't* know how diseases her patients have are transmitted?
KitSileya
Oct 2014
#208
Not EVERY SINGLE ONE of them!! We're not talking about diseases" we're talking about VHFs
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#213
Whether or not she is a piss poor nurse or works every day, she did not refuse to care for
merrily
Oct 2014
#159
I'm sorry but I would posit that people stop victim blaming period. Ignorance
arthritisR_US
Oct 2014
#136
That's my take too. Demonize the worlds pathetic response to West Africa's plight if they must. nt
arthritisR_US
Oct 2014
#175
I just found out that her show is being cancelled due to budget cuts! Arrrrrrgh!
MoonRiver
Oct 2014
#235
Good post, this brave young woman put her life on the line and was let down by her employers.
greatlaurel
Oct 2014
#252