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In reply to the discussion: To All the A**holes who are Insulting the Flying Ebola Nurse: Shut Your F***ing Faces. [View all]uponit7771
(90,392 posts)111. Why? There was NOTHING wrong with her, No signs of sickness, told the disease isn't contagious
... no signs that she contracted any of the disease and we have NO Proof that the HC Officials told the care givers that they'd basically have to give up their lives as they know it the second they were assigned Duncan.
No one is perfect and there are probably some things she cuold've done different but there's reason, IMHO, to lean on the side that the onus was on her
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To All the A**holes who are Insulting the Flying Ebola Nurse: Shut Your F***ing Faces. [View all]
riqster
Oct 2014
OP
Ms. Vinson is a Registered Nurse with either a Bachelor of Science and an Associate Degree in
DhhD
Oct 2014
#79
She was sick and likely terrified, so she asked the supposed government experts
merrily
Oct 2014
#89
Your own post disproves "There is no way a reasonable person who had been exposed to ebola....
merrily
Oct 2014
#118
PS, trying for personal responsibility is something one does about his or her own behavior.
merrily
Oct 2014
#157
She was not sick, no signs of anything wrong with her ... 99.5 is a normal tempreature for a woman
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#116
According to webmd it's normal for temp to go up and down 1deg... 98.6 is average not static number
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#133
Again, my own experience is very different. What counts for purposes of this thread is what
merrily
Oct 2014
#146
Frieden's got to go, else the buck stops at President Obama's desk. Sorry, that's how it goes
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#140
I largely agree with you. Here's the problem as I see it. Frieden's first response
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#177
EXACTLY! The CDC should be giving test RIGHT NOW to everyone who was in her situation
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#135
Bravo! I tend to look somewhat askance at the Trotskyist WSWS but on this their
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#10
I'm not going to blame Amber Vinson solely, but I really have to question her judgement.
Sheldon Cooper
Oct 2014
#3
She had the fever on the flight home, why did she fly there in the first place?
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#76
You keep posting that, but it doesn't make it any less true that she was worried
KitSileya
Oct 2014
#199
Its fact, there's nothing wrong with posting that she had no signs she was sick and followed rules..
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#201
But she was monitoring her temperature, and she was concerned enough about it to call the
Sheldon Cooper
Oct 2014
#13
Then that means she goes to quarantine for jogging? ... cause that's what could
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#20
And I would assume that, AS A NURSE, she'd be able to tell if her temp increase
Sheldon Cooper
Oct 2014
#25
No, not at all... a 1deg temp rises could be from ovulation to pregnancy to mestrual period for a
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#38
What?! 99.5 isn't even a temerature, the whole premise of her having signs is dead wrong I don't car
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#45
+1, the cdc cleared her because there was nothing wrong. 99.5 is normal for a woman NOT showign
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#63
How do you know the temp was in connection with the CDC call? My understanding is she just called...
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#186
99.5 is NOT a fever for a woman!! In connection to means she called BECAUSE of the temp not called a
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#198
Again, I'd be willing to bet good money that NONE.. NONE of those cargivers signed up for a "...live
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#39
Those caregivers didn't have to sign up for it - public health demands it from them.
KitSileya
Oct 2014
#58
"..Those caregivers didn't have to sign up for it -..." lol... that's great to say after the fact!!!
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#69
WHO is says its 42 days now... and " everyone he came into contact with had to limit their contact .
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#99
Thx, so basically these people got to sit out life for a month and half until the REAL "all clear"..
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#113
Where did you read she was worried about her temp? She called teh CDC to see if she could travel
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#127
I might get contagious and infectious mixed up (English is my second language)
KitSileya
Oct 2014
#143
Hey, if you just want someone to blame she's an easy target but given the facts of the matter there
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#78
Yes - it isn't the temperature itself, but the rise of it that is the concern.
KitSileya
Oct 2014
#104
I agree on the RISING temp, there's no proof that she called the CDC in connection with her temp
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#214
There's a tiny little part of me that wishes every R.N., LPN and Nurse's Aide would
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#148
Yes, ... I agree.. take responsibility after being FULLY informed.. .FULLY... I'm STILL thinking
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#181
I can understand the emotional pull on her to attend the wedding but sh*t happens and
CTyankee
Oct 2014
#40
She wasn't attending a wedding. She was planning her wedding, which is to take place
Sheldon Cooper
Oct 2014
#43
There was nothing wrong with her, 99.5 is a normal temperature for a woman ... why would she take
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#54
Yes, that's what webmd said... 98.6 is the AVG temp... human body temp is not a static number
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#187
She is not an epidemiologist. At every step, she did what experts told her to do.
merrily
Oct 2014
#170
Only thing I can think of is that it shifts blame from the CDC to this poor soul.
merrily
Oct 2014
#218
The "Kiss up, punch down" post, or were you thinking of another fumesucker gem?
merrily
Oct 2014
#229
When it comes to a registered nurse who did everything she was supposed to do,
merrily
Oct 2014
#236
As you can see from my posts on this thread, that is not my opinion of Vinson.
merrily
Oct 2014
#263
It's obvious to me that the hospital was not as firm with the ones who were exposed
SoCalDem
Oct 2014
#270
Not only that but what message is being sent to future caregivers? When ebola comes your way run?
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#4
No, just that health care givers should be given the choice of lifestyle... I'm sure
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#34
I think it's a bit different: this is because her employer was incompetent and negligent.
riqster
Oct 2014
#47
First I would get HC Givers the choice if they want to be involved in the restrictions, give them
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#172
I would ask if anyone out there has passed along a virus unintentionally
world wide wally
Oct 2014
#5
I don't think the question is, have you ever unintentionally passed along a virus?
Sweet Freedom
Oct 2014
#30
Not only that, there was technically no signs of anything wrong with her. 99.5 is not a fever
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#52
+1, but but... some talking head claims that 99.5 is a fever for a woman and DUr's take it like it's
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#60
With all due respect, no she didn't. This is a matter of basic common sense.
Sweet Freedom
Oct 2014
#142
Crap. Unless you are a nurse, medical practitioner or epidemiologist, you have no business throwing
riqster
Oct 2014
#167
I would say that I consulted medical professionals instead of projecting my assumptions
riqster
Oct 2014
#242
Given the facts? OF COURSE!! If I want to look at facts, common sense starts with common knowledge
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#173
It's here on DU and it's fucking disgusting. Thanks for posting this rebuttal, not that
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#7
Yes, people ARE bashing nurses and this ones judgment when FACTUALLY there were NO SIGNS of anything
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#49
People don't use their own common sense. We bow down to authority because we are convinced
Pisces
Oct 2014
#15
Quarantined herself while THERE WAS NO SIGNS OF ANYTHING WRONG?! You're kidding...
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#50
That is a normal temp for someone who has not come in contact with Ebola!! If you were directly
Pisces
Oct 2014
#162
She was not directly exposed, there's no proof of that... where are people getting this from!?
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#202
THis is a life lesson. You have to trust your own common sense, she was obviously uncertain and
Pisces
Oct 2014
#245
Did you know that in 2009 the head of the Texas Presbyterian hospital chain made
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#151
No they are not quarantined. They are doing self monitoring and that's it.
totodeinhere
Oct 2014
#33
If you have a source showing she talked with them prior to the trip, I'd like to see it as what I've
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#81
You are correct. She asked the CDC to for permission to fly back to Dallas and
totodeinhere
Oct 2014
#131
also, 21 day self observation != stay away from society. Im sure that's not what these people signed
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#35
No,... we disagree on the facts there... No one signed up for Agent Orange... but they did sign up
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#180
+1, I place the onus on the hospital...not even the CDC...that place should NOT be paying someone...
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#206
We got whiffs of that during the coverage today. When it was pointed out that
calimary
Oct 2014
#250
+1, there was nothing wrong with Amber ... 99.5 is normal temp for healthy WOMAN.. for a guy maybe
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#62
She had been exposed but no signs of anything being wrong with her including the NORMAL temp of 99.5
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#91
Apparently, 99.5 isn't normal for her or she wouldn't have called the CDC.
LostInAnomie
Oct 2014
#100
Not the case, she could've been taken the extra step... I would've and if cleared would've
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#108
There was NO WAY she could've known that she was exposed to the diseases vs exposed
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#141
What!? She is a nurse that has been exposed to the bodily fluids of a known ebloa patient.
LostInAnomie
Oct 2014
#149
I'm disputing useing the world "exposure" here because it's obvlious, it could mean anything and...
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#184
All the A**holes who are Insulting the Flying Ebola Nurse: Shut Your F***ing Faces
The CCC
Oct 2014
#68
This is false, she was not sick and 99.5 is a normal temp for a healthy woman. Talking heads calling
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#82
There were no signs anything was wrong with her, 99.5 is NOT a "temperature" for a healthy woman...
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#85
They couldn't be bothered with it so long as it was perceived to be a (mostly)
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#134
Yes, that's why I posted an OP yesterday... basically people said we'd have to be swimming in
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#92
"She put her life on the line".. so I get that means she can put everyone else's life too!
TerrapinFlyer
Oct 2014
#97
Why? There was NOTHING wrong with her, No signs of sickness, told the disease isn't contagious
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#111
She did NOT have a fever, that's what talking heads are saying and not a medical fact.. There were
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#120
Please show proof that she KNEW she was infected? Exposed could mean ANYTHING it's too oblivious...
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#176
How was she "exposed" to ebola using the same examples?! SHE WASN'T!!! Exposed is WAY to oblivious..
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#192
Are you assuming she *doesn't* know how diseases her patients have are transmitted?
KitSileya
Oct 2014
#208
Not EVERY SINGLE ONE of them!! We're not talking about diseases" we're talking about VHFs
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#213
Whether or not she is a piss poor nurse or works every day, she did not refuse to care for
merrily
Oct 2014
#159
I'm sorry but I would posit that people stop victim blaming period. Ignorance
arthritisR_US
Oct 2014
#136
That's my take too. Demonize the worlds pathetic response to West Africa's plight if they must. nt
arthritisR_US
Oct 2014
#175
I just found out that her show is being cancelled due to budget cuts! Arrrrrrgh!
MoonRiver
Oct 2014
#235
Good post, this brave young woman put her life on the line and was let down by her employers.
greatlaurel
Oct 2014
#252