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In reply to the discussion: An American Warden Visited A Norwegian Prison, And He Couldn't Believe What He Saw [View all]Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)30. Almost everyone who enters prison leaves prison...how do you want your ex-prisoners, even more
criminal or a better citizen?
America is as backwards on prison policy as the 19th century Salem witch hunters were on mental disorders.
Of course Norway does not have a citizenry armed to the teeth and a media keeping everyone perpetually frightened. It is all about mindset, and the militarized, weaponized, terrorized America has a sick one.
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xchrom
Oct 2014
OP
our prison system is messed up. Local police, local govs 'fine' the heck out of some persons.
Sunlei
Oct 2014
#45
I agree. Just take a look at the behavior of the Tea Partiers -- how much more primitive and
Cal33
Oct 2014
#104
"Norway has one of the lowest recidivism rates in the world, at 20 percent. So what is working here?
Douglas Carpenter
Oct 2014
#20
Diversity does increase conflict, but it is the resolution of that conflict ...
aikoaiko
Oct 2014
#17
You are correct. The Puritans believed in punishment and executions -- beginning with
Cal33
Oct 2014
#105
As long as capitalism allows a handful of people to have great wealth while the majority
fasttense
Oct 2014
#113
The reason we have ethnic tensions is because the uber rich want it that way.
fasttense
Oct 2014
#109
What you say is true, more so in this country where more people can scramble for money by hook and
Cal33
Oct 2014
#112
I like point to the study that brought 200 children that did not know each other to a park.
world wide wally
Oct 2014
#26
In other words, you agree that racism "emerges" and children are not born that way
world wide wally
Oct 2014
#36
Racism and bigotry are part of a long-standing, highly effective divide-and-conquer strategy
RufusTFirefly
Oct 2014
#74
There is a little known situation about Norway: The original natives there were an
Cal33
Oct 2014
#106
The percentage of foreign-born residents is higher in Norway (13.2%) than in the US (11.4%) so
pampango
Oct 2014
#32
Holy Crap. I don't think a single person in favor of ethnic cleansing throughout history didn't say
Number23
Oct 2014
#88
And Norwegians don't live under the thumbs of religious lunatics like we do.
Arugula Latte
Oct 2014
#121
Almost everyone who enters prison leaves prison...how do you want your ex-prisoners, even more
Fred Sanders
Oct 2014
#30
I believe Norway is a model nation, a way to run the entire world with compassion and intelligence.
Fred Sanders
Oct 2014
#97
Well said, Fred Sanders. With its policies on taxation, regulation, unions, safety net, trade and immigration
pampango
Oct 2014
#118
"Everyone is leaving ... prison one day," Stromnes said. "And we have to focus on life afterward."
Turbineguy
Oct 2014
#33
The U.S.' crime rate may be 87% higher than Norway's but our incarceration rate is 880% higher.
pampango
Oct 2014
#42
And interesting point of view, but the Catholic Church until 1861 held civil power and executed
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2014
#51
So did the rest of Europe, What we call Prison is an American inventions starting in 1829.
happyslug
Oct 2014
#55
“If this is the way Queen Victoria treats her prisoners, she doesn't deserve to have any.”
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2014
#49
"The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons."--Dostoyevsky
Comrade Grumpy
Oct 2014
#52
Surely one of the greatest truths ever written or spoken...barely mentioned in a nation consumed
Fred Sanders
Oct 2014
#119
If it meant non-violent offenders got to live in similar conditions, then I'd put up with it.
nomorenomore08
Oct 2014
#61
The fact that they don't probably explains, in part, why our violent crime rate is so high
nomorenomore08
Oct 2014
#65
I bet you its largely because the US prisons are largely run with the motto of
cstanleytech
Oct 2014
#71
Incarceration in the U.S. is an industry. You've got your for-profit prisons and
valerief
Oct 2014
#73
The difference between the USA and Norway is that the Norwegians have accepted the less savory parts
freshwest
Oct 2014
#81
If we had prisons like that LE would stop targeting Black people to stop and identify
Kalidurga
Oct 2014
#89