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78. Oh, I see you've moved the goal post, lol..

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Thu Oct 23, 2014, 10:22 AM

Oct 2014

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l thought we were talking about raising money on the internet rather than the election.

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Pushing Dean Out And Ending 50 State Strategy Was A BIG Mistake For Democrats. [View all] TheMastersNemesis Oct 2014 OP

bad for the rank and file. great for the dc dems Doctor_J Oct 2014 #1

Bingo! Scuba Oct 2014 #29

This is a very important point. While the rank and file still stand for Democratic Values rhett o rick Oct 2014 #32

Nice post. wavesofeuphoria Oct 2014 #38

Thanks. GOTV rhett o rick Oct 2014 #40

Agree completely, rhett o rick reimaginethis Oct 2014 #47

Word n/t arcane1 Oct 2014 #53

Rahm = genuine POS. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #63

Absolutely positively Bohunk68 Oct 2014 #69

Back then I thought Warren was just a mistake. Nope. :( NT Jerry442 Oct 2014 #74

And what happened, when PO made those... ReRe Oct 2014 #91

Ding, Ding, Ding!! You are correct. N/T SomeGuyInEagan Oct 2014 #48

Yeah but how liberal were those Democrats in red states? davidn3600 Oct 2014 #2

Unfortunately You Make A Good Point. TheMastersNemesis Oct 2014 #3

The worst Democrat is usually better than the best Republican Warpy Oct 2014 #4

Max Baucus had been in the senate since 1978 PassingFair Oct 2014 #24

True, but his ridiculous conservatism did him in after the ACA fight Warpy Oct 2014 #31

And Rahmbo putting all the DCCC's money in to DLC candidates instead of progressive candidates cascadiance Oct 2014 #61

Well said, Warpy. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #64

Any Democrat adds =1 to headcount which determines the majority (which sets the agenda) SharonAnn Oct 2014 #51

Blue dog is better than a Tea Party Crackpot BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #11

Have they been able to get more done, as a party quakerboy Oct 2014 #39

Yes, but it got done--and ALL with Democrats Wella Oct 2014 #88

Always an interesting topic wyldwolf Oct 2014 #5

#4 was how Dean articulated and executed it Recursion Oct 2014 #13

I seem to recall A HUGE Democratic Sweep in 2006 Bandit Oct 2014 #18

#4 tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #33

#4 absolutely davidpdx Oct 2014 #94

Lower than statewide even wyldwolf Oct 2014 #95

Yeah, very true davidpdx Oct 2014 #96

Maybe that was the plan Deny and Shred Oct 2014 #6

That is my thought, exactly. djean111 Oct 2014 #10

Agree MsLeopard Oct 2014 #27

"We could not get screwed as much as we do by the Dem party unless it was planned." Yep. Scuba Oct 2014 #30

That's always been my suspicion. TPTB didn't want to have to deal with real Nay Oct 2014 #50

+1 nt Zorra Oct 2014 #58

K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2014 #7

Absolutely. jwirr Oct 2014 #8

Getting rid of Dean was bad for Dem voters, but crucial for the Dem corporate party. polichick Oct 2014 #9

Sadly, you are likely correct. n/t BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #12

Yes, you are right. peacebird Oct 2014 #23

Umm... the 50 state strategy was never ended Recursion Oct 2014 #14

Why do you think Obama dumped Dean so ungraciously? nm rhett o rick Oct 2014 #41

I thought Dean quit because he was mad he wasn't appointed HHS secretary Recursion Oct 2014 #42

Yeah that's the ticket. And Pres Obama was sad he left and appointed him .... rhett o rick Oct 2014 #55

"Nice try" what? Recursion Oct 2014 #56

Yeah and the Obama supporters are saying what? That Rahm really did like Dean. rhett o rick Oct 2014 #57

+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #65

No. He was pushed out. There's plenty of documentation from the time. cali Oct 2014 #75

The funding has been cut, though eridani Oct 2014 #68

We need to contest every race, everywhere. Qutzupalotl Oct 2014 #15

No Way We Can Do a 50-State Strategy post-Citizens United AndyTiedye Oct 2014 #16

I agree with that tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #34

But we're outspending the GOP this cycle. By quite a bit. Recursion Oct 2014 #43

Those Figures Only Count REPORTED Spending AndyTiedye Oct 2014 #86

So, if R's have more money and always will, the solution can't lie in just money. HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #76

This thread= perfect example of posters not knowing wtf they are talking about KittyWampus Oct 2014 #17

??? Fuddnik Oct 2014 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author bahrbearian Oct 2014 #67

So? Does the party even publicize the strategy in more recent times than 2010? nt alp227 Oct 2014 #25

Does advertising an internal resource allocation strategy get votes? Recursion Oct 2014 #37

DU has a very strange idea about what the "50 state strategy" is. Thank you. Recursion Oct 2014 #35

Well Conspiracy theorists agree... charliea Oct 2014 #19

When it comes to CT theories ... NanceGreggs Oct 2014 #59

I understand your pessimism, but welcome to DU anyway. truebluegreen Oct 2014 #70

this is where i find President Obama difficult to understand samsingh Oct 2014 #20

I liked the 50 state strategy. Jamastiene Oct 2014 #21

Well, good news! They still do. Recursion Oct 2014 #44

K & R SoapBox Oct 2014 #26

Not only did his ouster from the DNC surprise me eissa Oct 2014 #28

What a crock frazzled Oct 2014 #36

Dean was the first candidate to raise big money on the internet, not Obama. whathehell Oct 2014 #45

True, but not as big, and not the on-the-ground organizational capacity frazzled Oct 2014 #52

Fine -- Obama's team had four years to improve upon what Dean started. whathehell Oct 2014 #73

I always give credit where credit is due in terms of Dean's pioneering the online campaigning davidpdx Oct 2014 #93

I'm sorry, but Obama's machine blew Dean's out of the water Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #60

Don't be, as my statement still stands. Dean was the first to blow everyone "out of the water" whathehell Oct 2014 #71

He blew one small state out of the water: his own frazzled Oct 2014 #77

Oh, I see you've moved the goal post, lol.. whathehell Oct 2014 #78

the point is Obama's was combined with actual ground support JI7 Oct 2014 #87

As I recall, whathehell Oct 2014 #89

50 state strategy does a hell of a lot for national perception of the party IronLionZion Oct 2014 #46

This explains why there are so many RW nut jobs here! We get little, if any, response to the Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #49

Is there even a future anymore for... nikto Oct 2014 #54

No, they haven't doomed us to extinction. ReRe Oct 2014 #62

Thanks for the encouragement, but... nikto Oct 2014 #90

Like I said... ReRe Oct 2014 #92

K&R to THAT!!! Mister Nightowl Oct 2014 #66

I saw Dean as being pushed out in 2004 (Iowa) fadedrose Oct 2014 #72

I agree rtracey Oct 2014 #79

As red state inhabitant libodem Oct 2014 #80

Agreed. And the emerging attack dogs-The 5 Royalist on the Supreme Court getting ready to put off DhhD Oct 2014 #81

Yes. It was. aquart Oct 2014 #82

Pushing Dean Out And Ending 50 State Strategy Was A BIG Mistake For Democrats. The CCC Oct 2014 #83

Someone posted a story the other day that brought up Lamar Smith R - Texas. iscooterliberally Oct 2014 #84

We stand for everyone (rich and poor) (red state or blue state) Babel_17 Oct 2014 #85