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MH1

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46. My understanding is that there are many non-problematic coke and heroin users.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 07:53 PM
Nov 2014

Not everyone succumbs to addiction. Similarly to how many of us can drink alcohol socially and not become alcoholics, yet for others, alcoholism comes quickly after starting to drink.

I'm not saying I agree wholeheartedly with the measure, because I don't know the details. Even though many people can handle even coke and heroin, I consider them highly dangerous and would want to know the details. But I probably would have voted for it as the lesser of evils.

The total cost of crimes committed by druggies not intercepted, will probably be less than the total cost of the former system of locking so many people up (including the relatively harmless) and ruining their lives completely. The total cost in ruined lives is probably less, too. But yes, some will be hurt that might have been "protected" by being caught and locked up sooner. It's a tradeoff. I'll take the side where less people get locked up.

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What was it before? nt meadowlark5 Nov 2014 #1
Felony upaloopa Nov 2014 #2
No kidding? meadowlark5 Nov 2014 #5
I'm guessing to a) reduce need for prison space MH1 Nov 2014 #6
Prison overcrowding. And basic humanity. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #7
Well then good on them meadowlark5 Nov 2014 #10
And how much is it going to cost when these methheads commit crimes? ryan_cats Nov 2014 #45
My understanding is that there are many non-problematic coke and heroin users. MH1 Nov 2014 #46
I get the sense XemaSab Nov 2014 #55
Both Meth and Crack get a really bad rap for being "poor" drugs Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #56
Everywhere decriminalization and/or legalization has been implemented it has reduced crime. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #50
Really? ryan_cats Nov 2014 #57
Tragic Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #59
Prison doesn't help people struggling with addiction. RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #51
Desoxyn is prescription meth JonLP24 Nov 2014 #54
We spend too much money locking people up upaloopa Nov 2014 #14
Interesting. n/t Moondog Nov 2014 #60
Wow. That should be an interesting experiment. WhiteTara Nov 2014 #3
Marijuana is decriminalized in California. We'll legalize it in 2016. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #9
Pot is a schedule 1 drug. sandpan Nov 2014 #43
Federally. nt. MH1 Nov 2014 #47
Also shoplifting, check and credit fraud, forgery, theft and possession of stolen goods. Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #4
As it should be. dilby Nov 2014 #8
what happens to all the people in jail for posession mahina Nov 2014 #11
They can apply for sentence reductions. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #13
Now if we can use the money we'll save on incarcerating them SoCalDem Nov 2014 #12
That is already happening. I work for Santa upaloopa Nov 2014 #15
Is there an upper limit for possesion? oneshooter Nov 2014 #16
Yes. KamaAina Nov 2014 #28
I don't think this was such a great freakin' idea derby378 Nov 2014 #17
If you make it so tough to get help for upaloopa Nov 2014 #18
Why not keep it a felony, but refuse to press charges against those who seek treatment? derby378 Nov 2014 #19
Why make a criminal of someone who isn''t doing anything to anybody? Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #20
Because Felony Drug charges clog up our Courts and Jails. dilby Nov 2014 #21
People addicted to drugs are sick not criminals. upaloopa Nov 2014 #23
Why should drug use Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #26
A little marijuana or hashish probably isn't going to harm anyone... derby378 Nov 2014 #29
Hey the tax payer pays more to warehouse them upaloopa Nov 2014 #34
If the grants keep coming in to provide more beds and treatment for addicts... derby378 Nov 2014 #39
I think it is a felony to sell drugs upaloopa Nov 2014 #41
Check us out upaloopa Nov 2014 #44
The right to experiment with ones consciousness Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #42
$65,000/yr to imprison them. Treatment is cheaper. grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #35
throwing people in prison for years for using drugs is the number one harm caused by illegal drugs Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #49
Yep. hunter Nov 2014 #58
Whether its a misdemeanor or felony won't stop people from being strung on the stuff JonLP24 Nov 2014 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author Boom Sound 416 Nov 2014 #22
Posession. Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #30
WHADDAYA MEAN???? THE DRUG WAR RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #33
Agreed. Boom Sound 416 Nov 2014 #37
Awwww. Elmer Fudd, Authoritarian Drug Warrior, haz a sad. Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #32
Wow...Coke is a misdemeanor now? Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #24
heheheheh, good one. MerryBlooms Nov 2014 #40
Good. Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #25
Possession for personal use should be at MOST a misdemeanor. hifiguy Nov 2014 #27
Good, so it passed. This country has got to get out of the zero-tolerance, imprison everyone... Hekate Nov 2014 #31
What other drugs on that list? grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #36
I read "personal use of most illegal drugs" upaloopa Nov 2014 #38
I read Schedule 3,4, & 5, whatever those are.... grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #52
Good for my old Home State....the west coast took care of some stuff yesterday. Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #48
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