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109. yeah, the country is more conservative than we would like to admit

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Alison Grimes' strategy of running away from Obama and to the right proved to be an utter DISASTER [View all] Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 OP

Hillary Clinton, are you paying attention? tularetom Nov 2014 #1

All she has to do is look at what happened to Al Gore Tommy2Tone Nov 2014 #73

Yep. I had no idea who she was in 2008 PatrynXX Nov 2014 #79

Hurt my damn finger on this rec button! bravenak Nov 2014 #2

Lol~ sheshe2 Nov 2014 #33

Glad to see you! bravenak Nov 2014 #36

Good to see you as well bravenak~ sheshe2 Nov 2014 #47

Oh, my! bravenak Nov 2014 #55

Wow, I may move to Alaska for the next 4 years. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #59

Things aren't as bad as they seem to me. bravenak Nov 2014 #61

Isn't Bill Walker a Repig? Wabbajack_ Nov 2014 #132

Independent. bravenak Nov 2014 #136

LOL.. I just REC.. if that helps? Cha Nov 2014 #91

You are always helpful. bravenak Nov 2014 #93

Where was that, bravenak.. we lost Cha Nov 2014 #94

Maui. bravenak Nov 2014 #95

Mahalo bravenak.. I had to leave to run after I posted that.. and then I remembered Maui Cha Nov 2014 #112

Ridiculous yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #3

but Alison did it in a most spectacularly idiotic and moronic way LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #10

But did the others deny Obama 3 times liberal N proud Nov 2014 #27

Not only say she voted for him LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #54

Here is what we do know.. Tommy2Tone Nov 2014 #72

Quinn just wasn't that popular BarackTheVote Nov 2014 #115

The 56-41% spread was a formidable rout. AtomicKitten Nov 2014 #4

Her strategy of running in a red state against a powerful incumbent proved to be a disaster. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #5

I doubt that any other Democrat would have done as well... kentuck Nov 2014 #7

Especially in this political climate. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #9

Ashley Judd was pushed out of the race. AtomicKitten Nov 2014 #21

She could have spent a little more time exposing McConnell link to the Chinese & the off-shore coal kelliekat44 Nov 2014 #25

The disparity between how the parties run AtomicKitten Nov 2014 #29

Ashley Judd's mental state would not have survived the onslaught of McConnell's attack ads. nt Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #58

I think that is why she dropped out? kentuck Nov 2014 #69

I'm not convinced of that. AtomicKitten Nov 2014 #71

I wonder--Judd? Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #46

I still think Ashley Judd would have been a better choice. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #12

An anti-coal candidate will never be elected in Kentucky. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #13

Forget it, Ykcutnek theHandpuppet Nov 2014 #121

No... kentuck Nov 2014 #15

I don't believe that. AtomicKitten Nov 2014 #78

Well, here's the thing... Scootaloo Nov 2014 #117

Each candidate, republican or democrat, lost for different reason. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #6

IMO it isn't really about Obama but Democratic policies and principles. Bandit Nov 2014 #14

Agree with everything you typed. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #18

10 Democrats lost. kentuck Nov 2014 #24

Fully agree. Something was definitely wrong. You would never hear me say anything different. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #26

yeah, the country is more conservative than we would like to admit still_one Nov 2014 #109

What a freakin moron. I didn't want to say too much LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #8

She was running against the Republican Leader.. kentuck Nov 2014 #16

Kentucky's a tough gig for any Democrat. MineralMan Nov 2014 #11

Again, Kelvin Mace Nov 2014 #35

True enough. It would have been interesting had she gone MineralMan Nov 2014 #39

They were gonna fuck with her either way. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #48

I agree. MineralMan Nov 2014 #66

Wrong answer zipplewrath Nov 2014 #156

The alternative is something like Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #163

Her fatal mistake Bobbie Jo Nov 2014 #17

True, but... kentuck Nov 2014 #19

Playing the defensive is a losing strategy Bobbie Jo Nov 2014 #20

Maybe? kentuck Nov 2014 #22

And so the Democrats played according to Republican strategy when they ran Scootaloo Nov 2014 #118

+1 flamingdem Nov 2014 #32

There ya go, Bobbie Jo! You go on the Offense and Offer what Dems are about.. and hell Cha Nov 2014 #116

Chas PIERCE said it, how much WORSE could it be (in outcome) for Dems to have STOOD BY Obama?!1 UTUSN Nov 2014 #23

Instead of letting hate radio and fox "news" run the show. Stood by Obama's and Dems' Cha Nov 2014 #130

She would have lost either way. What do you think KY is? When was the last time still_one Nov 2014 #28

Always a first time Kelvin Mace Nov 2014 #34

I am really starting to see your point. bravenak Nov 2014 #38

In KY? still_one Nov 2014 #43

Why not? LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #56

Yes, even in Kentucky. Kelvin Mace Nov 2014 #84

Why do you think that's going to work on Kentucky conservatives? treestar Nov 2014 #52

Spam deleted by MIR Team JuanHamonrye Nov 2014 #57

Funny. I love your tell--"the democrat problem" BillZBubb Nov 2014 #104

LOL...they are useful idiots for the GOP noiretextatique Nov 2014 #142

Most people SUPPORT liberal views Kelvin Mace Nov 2014 #83

If that is true then most of the republicans in congress, and most of the republicans in the country still_one Nov 2014 #89

So, no conservative Kelvin Mace Nov 2014 #92

No they don't. In fact they want the taxes they paid into those systems returned to them still_one Nov 2014 #96

Gosh, every single conservative on Kentucky Kelvin Mace Nov 2014 #133

Then it would have been better to lose with gusto Union Scribe Nov 2014 #106

To me your argument is the ONLY one that makes sense. Unless, of course one subscribes to Howard still_one Nov 2014 #108

If you're going to die, at least die with your boots on. hatrack Nov 2014 #123

I believe their governor is a Dem... fadedrose Nov 2014 #127

He is. Different issue still_one Nov 2014 #138

Sometime negoldie Nov 2014 #137

Yes, unmitigated flamingdem Nov 2014 #30

Other than the several dozen regular posters here Kelvin Mace Nov 2014 #31

Agreed. Our candidates should NOT be apologizing. . . DinahMoeHum Nov 2014 #37

Bottom Line: Democrats Need To Own and Defend Our Successes TomCADem Nov 2014 #40

She didn't run to the right Boom Sound 416 Nov 2014 #41

That's not running to the right? Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #51

Touché Boom Sound 416 Nov 2014 #65

In the words of my mom, "Looks good on her!" Old Nick Nov 2014 #42

Grimes Robbins Nov 2014 #44

She should have brought Obama in to campaign with her like Anthony Brown did in MD Freddie Stubbs Nov 2014 #45

And we all know how well that worked out theHandpuppet Nov 2014 #122

Not sure treestar Nov 2014 #49

It sure was a disaster.eom sheshe2 Nov 2014 #50

Her problem was that she ran an epically bad campaign. tritsofme Nov 2014 #53

Running to the right compounded the errors LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #60

She was accused of being a "baby-killin', "atheist".... kentuck Nov 2014 #64

Do you think the way she portrayed herself LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #67

I think she probably helped to keep the State Legislature blue... kentuck Nov 2014 #98

I agree. It was the last stretch where she fell down..I do not riversedge Nov 2014 #81

Obama won in 2012 with the biggest landslide election in modern times. SansACause Nov 2014 #62

I will ask again Skittles Nov 2014 #63

In 2012, Obama lost Kentucky by 23%. Grimes did better this year, under much less favorable Chathamization Nov 2014 #82

Obama lost KY 37-60 in 2012 madville Nov 2014 #86

Obama won decisively, but I wouldn't call either election a landslide. tritsofme Nov 2014 #87

How well did Obama do in Kentucky during his 2012 landslide? Freddie Stubbs Nov 2014 #139

Good, glad she is gone. Tommy2Tone Nov 2014 #68

Something to note: kentuck Nov 2014 #74

I lost all respect for her after I saw her refuse to address the question about voting for Obama... George II Nov 2014 #70

Maybe that was a mistake? kentuck Nov 2014 #75

But as I pointed out she was maybe 2% behind McConnell a week before, she lost by eight times that % George II Nov 2014 #85

The polling this year was shown to be light years off the mark theHandpuppet Nov 2014 #124

Grimes lost because she failed to articulate ACA effectively. Drunken Irishman Nov 2014 #76

Except for the fact that Kentucky is 90% white and Obama is black, and the Koch brothers spent . . . Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #97

She failed. Plain and simple. Drunken Irishman Nov 2014 #100

Please don't say that? kentuck Nov 2014 #102

I don't deal in hypotheticals... Drunken Irishman Nov 2014 #103

You may be right on that point? kentuck Nov 2014 #105

I know they all can't be walking idiots. Drunken Irishman Nov 2014 #107

Even if Obama's approval was 29%? kentuck Nov 2014 #113

Yes. Because apparently Kynect is popular there. Drunken Irishman Nov 2014 #114

Let me give you some figures. Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #110

100% Agree dbackjon Nov 2014 #77

Truman knew what the hell he as talking about. n/t tabasco Nov 2014 #80

Most definitely was a bad move. Puzzledtraveller Nov 2014 #88

i hear tell mopinko Nov 2014 #90

"Low poll numbers." moondust Nov 2014 #99

You hit the nail on the head. If only she only ran to the left she would have won KY by a landslide still_one Nov 2014 #101

Should have gone with Ashley Judd bluestateguy Nov 2014 #111

there's the quote again. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #119

Maybe she DIDN'T VOTE for Obama??? grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #120

What idiot told her not to say who she voted for in '08? fadedrose Nov 2014 #125

I know, huh, fadedrose.. She said she was a Clinton Dem.. and the difference is?.. Cha Nov 2014 #131

I wonder if that might have come from DSCC.?? kentuck Nov 2014 #135

Why couldn't she do what others did? fadedrose Nov 2014 #147

Her situation was not the same as others. kentuck Nov 2014 #148

Well, it was not dishonesty.. fadedrose Nov 2014 #151

Obama threw her under the bus.. kentuck Nov 2014 #155

Good for Harry Truman fadedrose Nov 2014 #126

Bravo! JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #128

Racism beat her in Kentucky get the red out Nov 2014 #129

And it won't change unless there is reason for the change nolabels Nov 2014 #140

Thus ever for Vichy Dems. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #134

Being anti coal,... in a state that depends on coal was not a brilliant game plan. NM_Birder Nov 2014 #141

Excpet she was very much pro-coal LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #143

A wonderful piece of the script, meant for public acceptance. NM_Birder Nov 2014 #146

Obviously. .. kentuck Nov 2014 #150

Obviously...... What was thought to be just a few percentage points of difference in polling NM_Birder Nov 2014 #153

Her supporters were very enthusiastic... kentuck Nov 2014 #157

you know more than I, I've never actually set foot in Kentucky. NM_Birder Nov 2014 #159

Right, and there was the problem LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #160

better the devil you know...., NM_Birder Nov 2014 #162

You cannot prove a negative... kentuck Nov 2014 #144

No, we can't know that LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #145

Name a candidate who cozied up to Obama and won..... brooklynite Nov 2014 #149

Her screechy, sing-song-y whiney voice was no help to her either SoCalDem Nov 2014 #152

I disagree with that description.. kentuck Nov 2014 #158

Her strategy of using the Clintons ecstatic Nov 2014 #154

Judd wouldn't have performed any worse than ALG. SableonBlonde Nov 2014 #161

I'm not so sure.... kentuck Nov 2014 #164