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10. I would say non-voters are the MOST relevant

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 07:31 PM

Nov 2014

They just gave us a Republican majority in the Senate and increased majority in the House, as well as a lot of crappy new R governors and state houses.

That's RELEVANT. Far more relevant than those of us who voted, but failed to have our candidates win because not enough people came out to vote for them. Not voting is about the most relevant thing you can do--for the opposite party.

Which is why I say below "agents provocateurs"--not because they are necessarily working for the Republicans, but because their antagonistic stance toward government is intended to bring about crisis ... leading to some future imagined Edenic state of bliss. It's like religious fundies: waiting for heaven.

Turnout is the most relevant thing about democracy. It doesn't work without it.

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I have seen a lot on DU, but advocating not voting sure jumps the shark [View all] still_one Nov 2014 OP

It was the same shit in 2010 Gman Nov 2014 #1

Ahhh Yuuppp! SCVDem Nov 2014 #63

I would never advocate not voting librechik Nov 2014 #2

People keep telling Still_One this. he keeps not paying attention Scootaloo Nov 2014 #3

hey, thx! n/t librechik Nov 2014 #5

You got a personal thing for me scootaloo. This the second time you called me out by name. Get a still_one Nov 2014 #15

Well, it's the second time you've engaged in derogatory garbage and nonsense Scootaloo Nov 2014 #22

At least now your talking to me directly, instead of replying to someone else about me still_one Nov 2014 #28

Sign Of A Bigger Problem billhicks76 Nov 2014 #43

Primary fights are where it's at Man from Pickens Nov 2014 #76

Not sure the word 'advocate' means what you think it does. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #4

understanding why people won't vote isn't the same as advocating. m-lekktor Nov 2014 #6

of course no one advocated not voting Doctor_J Nov 2014 #9

Desperation, they failed miserably on the fourth and did the only thing they know who to do Rex Nov 2014 #11

They are already irrelevant. even when they voted in droves in 2008 Doctor_J Nov 2014 #7

I would say non-voters are the MOST relevant frazzled Nov 2014 #10

I will never understand how someone accused of not voting can also be accused of causing A Simple Game Nov 2014 #23

People on this board who claim to be liberal/progressive, for starters frazzled Nov 2014 #26

So 100% of Republicans voted, fascinating, either because it's true or because A Simple Game Nov 2014 #39

You are being purposefully dense frazzled Nov 2014 #47

And you know that comparing a Presidential year to a mid-term is meaningless. A Simple Game Nov 2014 #49

So if the rePuglican party turned out its base, why did the Democratic party not do the same? - n/t mazzarro Nov 2014 #69

Before Whining About People Getting In Line billhicks76 Nov 2014 #44

good points. appalachiablue Nov 2014 #34

why would they expect to get everything and immediately? treestar Nov 2014 #77

Agents provocateurs frazzled Nov 2014 #8

Agent Provacateurs billhicks76 Nov 2014 #46

Do you have a link for this? Chemisse Nov 2014 #12

Here is the main link based on a "open letter', and the responses in the thread still_one Nov 2014 #18

I'm pretty sure not voting is like holding your breath... Historic NY Nov 2014 #13

I'm one of those... ReRe Nov 2014 #57

+1 Historic NY Nov 2014 #59

My Mother was the same way... ReRe Nov 2014 #62

Real grass roots Dems..understand. Historic NY Nov 2014 #64

Not Voting Eatacig Nov 2014 #14

Yes, Jon Stewart is really a Republican plant F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #32

Yeah Right billhicks76 Nov 2014 #48

Step away from the crack pipe!! Historic NY Nov 2014 #60

Millenials should be concerned about the future ... Martin Eden Nov 2014 #16

They are. They also know that voting for any of the current politicians isn't going to help Doctor_J Nov 2014 #19

Maybe so, but more Republicans in office will very likely cause real damage. Martin Eden Nov 2014 #24

So, "let's go over the cliff RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!1!!" MH1 Nov 2014 #80

Activism is just as important as voting. But I still think not voting is kind of dumb. nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #17

Nobody is ADVOCATING not voting. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #20

OK, let me agree that may be the point, and I missed it. I will still argue there is no excuse for still_one Nov 2014 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author 840high Nov 2014 #27

Then why on earth are you posting bullshit OPs like this? F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #36

+1! whatchamacallit Nov 2014 #40

I didn't say I agree with that premise, I was presenting the scenario the poster presented, and say still_one Nov 2014 #50

Whether it's "justified" isn't the point tkmorris Nov 2014 #66

Dissenting Jack Rabbit Nov 2014 #21

by shoehorning any demands for leadership change or criticism of bipartisan collusion MisterP Nov 2014 #30

Most of it is just rhetoric Warpy Nov 2014 #29

You have a point. Blame game, frustration, etc. still_one Nov 2014 #31

Mainly cowardice Android3.14 Nov 2014 #35

Screw this lie Android3.14 Nov 2014 #33

I base it on this thread, and many of the comments contained in it still_one Nov 2014 #45

You are being obtuse Android3.14 Nov 2014 #53

go for it. have a good day still_one Nov 2014 #54

You're so sweet.. "have a good day".. and so patient, still _one~ Cha Nov 2014 #73

LOL.. "You are being obtuse".. Cha Nov 2014 #72

Oh look Android3.14 Nov 2014 #92

Yesterday I posted - Not voting isn't a protest, it's a surrender. GoneOffShore Nov 2014 #37

"Advocating to not vote"? Dorothy called - she wants her scarecrow back. djean111 Nov 2014 #38

First and foremost..... no1uno Nov 2014 #41

how long have you supported corporatist dems and policies benefitting them they produce? stupidicus Nov 2014 #42

what are you talking about. This is about voting or not voting, not WHO to vote for still_one Nov 2014 #51

in other words stupidicus Nov 2014 #83

Take care still_one Nov 2014 #84

I'll take what I want stupidicus Nov 2014 #85

No intelligent, sane person equates advocacy of exercising the right to vote geek tragedy Nov 2014 #93

well I'd try to explain it to you stupidicus Nov 2014 #96

Non voters are moral cowards, not morally righteous. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #97

that's garbage stupidicus Nov 2014 #98

I don't vote against people, I vote for them, to the extent I can find them. silvershadow Nov 2014 #52

I agree. onecaliberal Nov 2014 #55

The Whiners about not having a reason to vote are amazingly ignorant if they don't think Cha Nov 2014 #56

i heard this "don't vote" bs on kgo radio, sanfran. hopemountain Nov 2014 #58

While the rw stations are all saying GOTV.. that guy sounds like a first class ignorant clueless Cha Nov 2014 #61

No, not voting makes the loser irrelevant. The person not voting is just fine and I respect them jtuck004 Nov 2014 #65

Before you can defeat the third way/blue dog/centrists duhbyas pet goat Nov 2014 #67

No, it's actually easier to defeat the third way folks first jeff47 Nov 2014 #102

You are too thick.. sendero Nov 2014 #68

"You are too thick.." to be able to get your point across without personally attacking the OP. Cha Nov 2014 #71

Have you never heard of leading by example? Lady Freedom Returns Nov 2014 #74

Pretzel logic for the LOSERs. GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #70

It could be worse PDittie Nov 2014 #75

Not voting is extremely relevant if it helps the other side win elections. DCBob Nov 2014 #78

what reason would people have to consider the repukes "the other side" when "our Doctor_J Nov 2014 #86

If you dont know by now I can't help you. DCBob Nov 2014 #87

exactly. we have next to nothing of substance to offer Doctor_J Nov 2014 #88

There are plenty of items.. eg.. womens rights, civil rights, social justice, DCBob Nov 2014 #89

And which of these have the dc dems made priorities and made progress on Doctor_J Nov 2014 #90

There have been some gains but just holding on to what we have is an accomplishment.. DCBob Nov 2014 #91

Democrats are better on all of those than Republican. Individually, I can only think of two of Chathamization Nov 2014 #95

Links? 99Forever Nov 2014 #79

Everyone should vote bigwillq Nov 2014 #81

Irrelevant is voting tapermaker Nov 2014 #82

You do realize not everything is gerrymandered. Governor races and senate races, in addition to still_one Nov 2014 #100

DU rec for pissing off all the right people...nt SidDithers Nov 2014 #94

Not voting also helps Republicans. baldguy Nov 2014 #99

You should read more carefully. jeff47 Nov 2014 #101

Another thing it gets it Ted Cruz to lead the US Science Dept.. but the little non voters were too Cha Nov 2014 #103

If you dont vote then dont bitch. if you are mistaken thinking if you dont go and vote it will make Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #104