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23. Exit polls show we managed to lose all of our traditional constituencies.

Sun Nov 9, 2014, 02:46 PM

Nov 2014

Over 65's went heavily Republican, by 15%, and only as far back as the 2006 mid term we were even in that demographic.

They also show we lost our overall number of voters with Democrats trailing Republicans by 7.9% nationally.

Most disturbing of all, (perhaps) is despite years of Democratic triangulation and "pragmatic incrementalism" that was supposed to attract the golden middle, independents rejected us by a margin of 12%.

So, if the real goal was to build a long term majority and court the middle with third way triangulation the Democratic party has failed and needs to rebuild itself from the ground up.

Alternately, if the real goal was to infiltrate and corrupt the party, creating a situation where Republicans win even when they lose third wayers have succeeded spectacularly.

I'm not sure which it is.

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"In a private club 54 floors above the convention hall they monitored the party they infiltrated." [View all] madfloridian Nov 2014 OP

Paul Wellstone and others spoke out against this takeover madfloridian Nov 2014 #1

And how many Senators are in the Congressional Progressive Caucus today? progressoid Nov 2014 #88

Progressive Democrats: It starts NOW. Raise the standards, demand change, reject the past. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #2

..... madfloridian Nov 2014 #3

where is this group referenced in Skidmore Nov 2014 #33

Here. Needs to be more active though. madfloridian Nov 2014 #51

I subscribe to it, I just don't post there much. nt navarth Nov 2014 #63

I love what you're saying, NYC_SKP! SoapBox Nov 2014 #36

+1000 TeamPooka Nov 2014 #41

Editorials from known anti-DLC sources wyldwolf Nov 2014 #4

They need repeating. Too many have me on ignore for me to get "dittos dittos" madfloridian Nov 2014 #5

Ditto Rush ditto wyldwolf Nov 2014 #7

..... madfloridian Nov 2014 #12

That's good because it wasn't meant to be funny wyldwolf Nov 2014 #16

It really says more about you than about me. madfloridian Nov 2014 #17

Sure because I point things out like that wyldwolf Nov 2014 #18

Comparing me to Rush is way over the line, even if done in a cutesy manner. madfloridian Nov 2014 #19

No I did not compare you to rush wyldwolf Nov 2014 #20

Oh well, you compared progressives on this board to Rush listeners... madfloridian Nov 2014 #25

He is getting so sad now, earlier this week he was on fire with the snark. Rex Nov 2014 #32

And enthusiastically defending the DLC! Enthusiast Nov 2014 #82

He/she always slams anyone with anything bad (truthful) to say lob1 Nov 2014 #47

You are not funny, chervilant Nov 2014 #48

+1 Enthusiast Nov 2014 #81

And you have a problem with that? nt Zorra Nov 2014 #11

And a response from a known pro-DLC DUer Kermitt Gribble Nov 2014 #31

Any editorials about the 15 million people newly in poverty under this administration? jtuck004 Nov 2014 #43

Well said, thanks for the info. lpbk2713 Nov 2014 #6

and we are looking at more jobs going outside the US and the jobs here going to H-1b visaholders. nt antigop Nov 2014 #8

This is one of the reasons I'm not in favor of Hillary Clinton and Cleita Nov 2014 #9

+1 nashville_brook Nov 2014 #55

K+R sibelian Nov 2014 #10

Thank you, madfloridian, for all the important information about Third Way/DLC Zorra Nov 2014 #13

I think the Koch contributions to local TP organizers hootinholler Nov 2014 #14

Totally agree. They are literally buying out our country. madfloridian Nov 2014 #49

Thanks for this chronicle of the demise of the Democratic Party Martin Eden Nov 2014 #15

I guess it is a chronicle. It started earlier.... madfloridian Nov 2014 #27

Great post! Spot on analysis. whereisjustice Nov 2014 #21

Excellent info, thanks for the post Populist_Prole Nov 2014 #22

Exit polls show we managed to lose all of our traditional constituencies. pa28 Nov 2014 #23

Perhaps your statement about the real goal is correct. madfloridian Nov 2014 #24

+1000. "third wayers have succeeded spectacularly" Multinationals are partying hard. nt adirondacker Nov 2014 #40

I don't think the Democrats will win until Turbineguy Nov 2014 #26

The DLC, Third Way, New Democrats, etc, are to the Democratic Party what Decaf is to Coffee Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #28

All too true. madfloridian Nov 2014 #29

You, madfloridian, are after my heart and mind today... ReRe Nov 2014 #30

I found the post at Politico. Typical Will Marshall. I prefer the word liberal myself. madfloridian Nov 2014 #38

Thanks "MF" for Reminding us what has gone down the "Memory Hole" KoKo Nov 2014 #34

Lakoff had a lot of good stuff to say.. He was one of the victims of the Rahm type Democrats. madfloridian Nov 2014 #46

Overall an excellent post. cprise Nov 2014 #71

Yep .. we're screwed. Obama is going to go for Keystone, CCPI, More military escalation. On and on. YOHABLO Nov 2014 #35

Bipartisanship is just another code word for "we wanna slop up those lobbyist goodies, too." nt valerief Nov 2014 #37

...... madfloridian Nov 2014 #39

"bipartisanship" reeks of the same rotten capitulation as company bbgrunt Nov 2014 #61

The Clintons are definitely DLC/Third Way, and that was the '90s. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #42

Brings to mind what FDR said when asked if he would be a good President or a bad President: santamargarita Nov 2014 #44

k/r excellent post nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #45

I heard he was already working on the TPP. And ed reform is well on its way. madfloridian Nov 2014 #52

We can't let the TPP go through! whathehell Nov 2014 #54

My my my...not a ONE of the DUers asking questions about the Third Way is in this thread Rex Nov 2014 #50

Wait!!! There really is an honest to fricking gosh 3rd way???? Autumn Nov 2014 #53

..... madfloridian Nov 2014 #56

They are busy trying to see where the goal post will be moved to next. Rex Nov 2014 #70

Thank you for this, my dear madfloridian... CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2014 #57

You are welcome, CAPeggy. madfloridian Nov 2014 #58

Oh, thank you for telling me...I had no idea. CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2014 #59

Well then. madfloridian Nov 2014 #60

I write the stuff I write because this is who I am. CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2014 #62

A Vote For HRC Is A Vote For The DLC cantbeserious Nov 2014 #64

extra kick. nt navarth Nov 2014 #65

Thanks for the extra kick. madfloridian Nov 2014 #66

Thank YOU for this excellent thread. nt navarth Nov 2014 #72

Kick rec Teamster Jeff Nov 2014 #67

K & R neverforget Nov 2014 #68

How many of these can we count in this thread? Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #69

Urge to purge:) grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #73

I find myself holding my nose when I vote anymore Not Sure Nov 2014 #74

A blog by an IL educator is an example of disillusioned teachers not voting. madfloridian Nov 2014 #75

The influence on Clinton and the formation of the New Democrats Network (NDN) madfloridian Nov 2014 #76

Truly nauseating... AzDar Nov 2014 #77

Kicked. Thanks MadFloriidian! nt mariawr Nov 2014 #78

The whole world is one big conspiracy theory. DeSwiss Nov 2014 #79

I always thoroughly appreciate your post. MF. K&R myrna minx Nov 2014 #80

Kicked and recommended a huge bunch! Enthusiast Nov 2014 #83

Thanks for bringing this to our attention MissDeeds Nov 2014 #84

AM K&R back to the top where this belongs! nt riderinthestorm Nov 2014 #85

K&R Bookmarked. Thanks. Scuba Nov 2014 #86

Oh snap!! Generic Other Nov 2014 #87

Is the DLC basically our version of their Tea Party ... ? Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2014 #89

"our wars?" I'm not claiming them. Be my guest. lonestarnot Nov 2014 #90

The Corporate Suite Octafish Nov 2014 #91

Never happen. madfloridian Nov 2014 #94

SS Tax is 13.4% today. joeglow3 Nov 2014 #92

Kicking. historylovr Nov 2014 #93