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CreekDog

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374. exchange plans have to offer coverage for your preexisting conditions

Thu Nov 13, 2014, 06:54 PM

Nov 2014

or is the purpose of the OP to try to get us to believe that you will forego health insurance altogether no matter what?

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Just got my ACA premium notice for next year [View all] Glitterati Nov 2014 OP

Can't you go back to exchanges and purchase a different plan? JaneyVee Nov 2014 #1

OP doesn't seem to want to respond to that kind of very reasonable question. stevenleser Nov 2014 #31

Only one problem with this line of attack Glitterati Nov 2014 #36

You can check now PasadenaTrudy Nov 2014 #48

Tried. No plan specifics. Glitterati Nov 2014 #49

Bummer... Saturday then I think, the 15th n/t PasadenaTrudy Nov 2014 #62

exchange plans have to offer coverage for your preexisting conditions CreekDog Nov 2014 #374

Please read through this........nowhere does it say they can't increase the premium Glitterati Nov 2014 #382

Then the issue, so far, is only with that one insurance company. stevenleser Nov 2014 #54

I didn't ask for your permission Glitterati Nov 2014 #58

I don't need your permission to comment. When you post an OP you are soliciting comments. stevenleser Nov 2014 #69

Not one word is misleading Glitterati Nov 2014 #76

It's completely misleading.And by your own admission you don't know the facts of your situation yet. stevenleser Nov 2014 #81

I'm so sorry the FACTS got in your way Glitterati Nov 2014 #84

Facts. You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. stevenleser Nov 2014 #107

YES, FACTS. Glitterati Nov 2014 #112

Nope, you dont know the facts of your situation. nt stevenleser Nov 2014 #115

I most certainly do. In. Writing. Glitterati Nov 2014 #117

No, by your own admission the exchange isn't open yet. Thus. you don't know the facts of your stevenleser Nov 2014 #121

I most certainly do. In. Writing. Glitterati Nov 2014 #126

so you should piss n' moan about the letter in your hand Sheepshank Nov 2014 #137

Oh for GAWD'S sake Glitterati Nov 2014 #139

Yes...there is interest in what Humana is doing Sheepshank Nov 2014 #142

Oh, you're sooooooooooo kind and understanding! Glitterati Nov 2014 #146

Were you insured before the ACA? I'm just curious if KMOD Nov 2014 #149

No, I was uninsured for 30 years Glitterati Nov 2014 #156

you just don't understand. redruddyred Nov 2014 #202

I know. Please Glitterati Nov 2014 #204

not sure why you think you deserve to eat or anything. redruddyred Nov 2014 #209

I know! So entirely STUPID of me, right? Glitterati Nov 2014 #220

Why not? So what do you suggest she/ he LukeFL Nov 2014 #659

aaaannnd what state are you in? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #268

aaaaaaaaaaaand like you give a flip? Glitterati Nov 2014 #271

aaaaaand not surprising you don't want to reveal that! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #273

Once again, to YOU Glitterati Nov 2014 #291

Your paper is false! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #298

The unsubsidized premium is the amount above that is $577.67, the box below clearly states that it TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #396

No I don't I HAVE been on this...she HASN'T applied for subsidy yet...AND VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #398

You being on an exchange plan nor levels changes the poster's premium in 2015 nor their 2014 credit TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #576

Pardon me, this is a very long thread and I've only read this far so far davekriss Nov 2014 #563

Thank you. Glitterati Nov 2014 #564

You seem to be misunderstanding the form, which is somewhat misleading. Ms. Toad Nov 2014 #565

The real entitled Takers point of view exactly. Self and money are paramount, sickly justifiable. appalachiablue Nov 2014 #418

What did you find out when you went to the website? rgbecker Nov 2014 #380

You are a prime example homegirl Nov 2014 #167

Awww, poor mistreated Obama Glitterati Nov 2014 #169

Is this what your post is about sheshe2 Nov 2014 #651

This message was self-deleted by its author Snotcicles Nov 2014 #603

Actually, the people with the agendas are QUITE obvious LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #249

actually it is CreekDog Nov 2014 #378

Don't be so surprised. Brigid Nov 2014 #162

what state? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #272

I have no intention of revealing private information to YOU Glitterati Nov 2014 #281

I KNEW this was an attempted Obama bashing.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #286

ROFL, EVERYTHING to you is Obama bashing. Glitterati Nov 2014 #289

NO but this is.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #300

I can't even get my head around a $27 health insurance premium. cheapdate Nov 2014 #441

Preach it phylny Nov 2014 #599

but that is the point....ITS not coming their way... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #261

Really? So Humana singled me out, I guess? Glitterati Nov 2014 #266

you paid this much IF you received any financial assistance VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #293

Take a close look at the letter jberryhill Nov 2014 #270

It's a SHE and it most certainly DOES include the subsidy! Glitterati Nov 2014 #274

So, you went to the link noted in the letter and updated the APTC data? jberryhill Nov 2014 #295

Went, yes Glitterati Nov 2014 #497

No it doesn't.....as I said...I HAVE gotten that assistance... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #302

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #318

Yes they are..... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #321

The 2015 amount before assistance is ohheckyeah Nov 2014 #405

and what is her subsidy...what state is she in....has she applied for the subsidy for this year yet VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #408

They based the subsidy off the 2014 subsidy. ohheckyeah Nov 2014 #434

The subsidy is based on the premium of the second cheapest Silver plan Yo_Mama Nov 2014 #517

I have read it...and have read one of my own..... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #313

No. It is calulated by taking what you currently pay Ms. Toad Nov 2014 #566

Yes, it does and clearly states it. The unsubsidized premium is the $577.67, the box below is the TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #407

It's an invalid calculation jberryhill Nov 2014 #467

Are you debating the arithmetic, the 2015 rate or the 2014 credit amount? If it is none of those TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #573

Yes, it is misleading jberryhill Nov 2014 #587

Then try reading the letter in your hand jberryhill Nov 2014 #275

The unsubsidized premium is almost $600. Where the poster is off (though much closer than you) is TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #421

no, that is incorrect jberryhill Nov 2014 #463

I'm not trying to be a dick but I don't get how that changes the facts of the costs. TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #513

okay, let's put it this way jberryhill Nov 2014 #534

No, that does not follow logically. Are you debating the 2015 premium, the 2014 credit, or the math? TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #574

The 2015 premium as stated in the letter jberryhill Nov 2014 #589

Those rates are already loaded, Humana knows what they are charging. TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #638

That's what I got out of it... TreasonousBastard Nov 2014 #465

You're not alone. Unfortunately I know several people in your situation. 7962 Nov 2014 #277

Thank you. Glitterati Nov 2014 #284

Sorry, when i said "you" I meant people in general that have the same problem.:) 7962 Nov 2014 #288

only those in states that elected NOT to expand Medicaid. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #316

Would that include Georgia? n/t Adsos Letter Nov 2014 #459

If Obama claimed Aerows Nov 2014 #550

NO this is bullshit....I HAVE been on Obamacares...and THIS paper DOESN'T disclose her VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #306

Her premiums, under this law, go up 370% and you're attacking her? rug Nov 2014 #466

Not correct. Ms. Toad Nov 2014 #567

"The unsubsidized premiums went up $74.12." rug Nov 2014 #605

You are comparing apples to oranges. Ms. Toad Nov 2014 #635

Steve didn't say "Obama" once CreekDog Nov 2014 #376

A. is ACA $100 a month better than non ACA at $500 a month? randys1 Nov 2014 #419

Not if you can't afford either one Aerows Nov 2014 #474

Many cant afford $100 a month, but I get the impression that she was blaming Obama randys1 Nov 2014 #475

Really? Glitterati Nov 2014 #481

Well first you chose to come here to say what you said randys1 Nov 2014 #484

Whew boy, I'm sorry Glitterati Nov 2014 #488

I know exactly who to blame Aerows Nov 2014 #546

And THEREIN lies the problem Glitterati Nov 2014 #477

We should not beat up on poor people on DU, and all too many are doing it in this thread. Yo_Mama Nov 2014 #520

I'm not even poor Aerows Nov 2014 #552

by omission.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #257

What omission? Glitterati Nov 2014 #262

A. your state....and B. that this is not off the Exchange. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #279

I hope I get my letter soon, as the Marketplace website doesn't show my previous plan anymore. moriah Nov 2014 #372

The is the exact personality of Mr. Leser. TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #428

Yep, I am a person who wants to debate based on all the facts. That's my personality. nt stevenleser Nov 2014 #604

They have a gripe now. No need to be that dismissive. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #113

No, they don't. In two days they might. But they might not. nt stevenleser Nov 2014 #118

Doubled? Try quadrupled! Glitterati Nov 2014 #123

try baloney! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #322

the insurance premium increased by about 14% CreekDog Nov 2014 #381

No, it's a 14% increase in the policy's premium CreekDog Nov 2014 #384

Just received a letter telling me mine is going up $105. Will see what will happen here. glinda Nov 2014 #152

what state? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #282

I suspect there was some kind of glitch. I checked the Marketplace earlier.... moriah Nov 2014 #383

The federal exchange opens in less than 48 hours riderinthestorm Nov 2014 #56

Ok thanks for clarification. I hope everything works out for you. JaneyVee Nov 2014 #471

Seems like the OP jumped the shark.. FarPoint Nov 2014 #110

Good lord. Glitterati Nov 2014 #116

Cold and callous ones. That's what kind. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #119

No she is dishonest....this form doesn't include her subsidy....because she hasn't applied for it VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #319

When i check the estimates it includes a $191.66 subsidy. moriah Nov 2014 #397

well according to the ACTUAL ACA site... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #399

Okay, then why even offer estimates? moriah Nov 2014 #401

because its estimates.....sheesh....because open enrollment is just around the corner... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #406

I'd much more believe the Republcians were scheming to fuck with people's heads... moriah Nov 2014 #410

then you would be naive... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #412

So again, no one can ever have anything bad to say about Obamacare and it be accurate. moriah Nov 2014 #425

The law requires them to send the estimates to all insureds. WillowTree Nov 2014 #528

Well...since you mentioned it.... FarPoint Nov 2014 #128

Yep. In two days, OP may in fact have reason to panic, but not now. nt stevenleser Nov 2014 #129

I love your feedback within this thread. FarPoint Nov 2014 #150

thought she had something...... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #323

Maybe the computers fucked up. moriah Nov 2014 #395

The GOP's mission is very clear... FarPoint Nov 2014 #433

The OP isn't the only one experiencing these increases. But then we pointed out the loopholes sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #665

In my case, they don't offer the same plan anymore. moriah Nov 2014 #366

And don't poor folk get offsets and credits? nt MADem Nov 2014 #480

Are there no other plans offered in your area? SheilaT Nov 2014 #2

Asked and answered Glitterati Nov 2014 #106

Then maybe, just maybe, you should wait until the federal exchange opens SheilaT Nov 2014 #172

If the previews of rates are wrong, then why have them up at all? moriah Nov 2014 #368

Look for a different plan then PasadenaTrudy Nov 2014 #3

That was the plan scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #4

Clearly Glitterati Nov 2014 #6

I don't blame you scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #19

You didn't have to wait that long. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #27

You are being bullshitted..... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #332

Don't blame you. 840high Nov 2014 #211

I guess people will be happy DocMac Nov 2014 #221

You are not sick and tired.....you are just not honest... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #326

Why do you ignore the box immediately above that clearly states the premium before credits is $577? TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #453

I'm sick and tired of reading your rude, dismissive, accusitory responses. Do you have Ed Suspicious Nov 2014 #543

Ah...the royal 'we' B2G Nov 2014 #629

What was your monthly premiums before ObamaCare kicked in? Boudica the Lyoness Nov 2014 #530

I was uninsured for 30 years. Glitterati Nov 2014 #540

Did you get the Gold or Platinum VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #561

We bought insurance because we have worked too hard Boudica the Lyoness Nov 2014 #569

Here's a fun fact. Glitterati Nov 2014 #584

You just dig yourself in. LynnTTT Nov 2014 #588

ROFL, anything you say Glitterati Nov 2014 #591

You're not the only person who's chronically ill Boudica the Lyoness Nov 2014 #609

Thanks. Glitterati Nov 2014 #614

Are you fucking kidding me?? B2G Nov 2014 #671

Out in CA allinthegame Nov 2014 #155

As it was meant too be SammyWinstonJack Nov 2014 #159

so you're saying that if Obamacare goes away, then only the insurance companies will lose CreekDog Nov 2014 #411

+1 L0oniX Nov 2014 #458

ACA isn't going up. Your particular insurance company is going up. drm604 Nov 2014 #5

Go ahead, argue semantics Glitterati Nov 2014 #7

I wasn't trying to argue semantics. drm604 Nov 2014 #9

Help? You thought that was helpful? Glitterati Nov 2014 #10

Wow. drm604 Nov 2014 #14

You don't know what my problem is? Glitterati Nov 2014 #17

I meant that I didn't know what your problem with my response was. Wasn't that obvious? drm604 Nov 2014 #21

You were NOT helpful. Glitterati Nov 2014 #22

the poster doesn't want to help you at all TheSarcastinator Nov 2014 #29

That was entirely clear with the first post Glitterati Nov 2014 #32

The most aggravating thing I have noticed on DU is the posters who scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #57

Oh, so even though millions are helped it's a failure SheilaT Nov 2014 #176

and those millions will be reduced as they receive the letter I got today Glitterati Nov 2014 #195

yes scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #307

killing 5 people to save 10 is nothing to be cheer leading about scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #314

Where are people being killed by this? SheilaT Nov 2014 #335

and you know this with your whole 190 posts? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #334

well if you don't want Obamacare then the old system doesn't want you CreekDog Nov 2014 #416

She even admits she was uninsured before ACA, ACA got her monthly costs down from $500 randys1 Nov 2014 #438

It's not help she's looking for, but thanks for your efforts. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #238

Isn't it funny that so few managed to figure that out? Glitterati Nov 2014 #244

You didn't offer anything constructive either....you are passing false information... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #336

It's obvious you weren't looking for help from the tone of your responses in this thread. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #505

I think if you think REALLY hard ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #246

Oh, wow! I couldn't find the word Obama in the OP Glitterati Nov 2014 #254

Okay! No Obama in the ACA, AKA Obamacare ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #280

streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch! Glitterati Nov 2014 #297

Nah, you just managed to insert "all hail the mighty Obama" into nearly every subsequent... Hekate Nov 2014 #329

There's only one problem. Glitterati Nov 2014 #338

Yeah, calling them dishonest and implying they are illiterate unable to read what is clearly stated TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #470

Yep, I mean in the worst case scenario THANKS TO OBAMA she pays ONE FIFTH of what it randys1 Nov 2014 #444

NOPE! Wrong again. Glitterati Nov 2014 #473

Yeah, I figured you are blaming Obama that cutting the cost to ONE FIFTH wasnt enough randys1 Nov 2014 #479

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaa Glitterati Nov 2014 #483

memory lane? do I know you? randys1 Nov 2014 #485

ROFL, really shook you up, huh? Glitterati Nov 2014 #489

who asked you to curl up and die? CreekDog Nov 2014 #413

Now you have destroyed the pinata LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #8

Notice the response I got? drm604 Nov 2014 #16

And SOME people think lectures are HELPFUL Glitterati Nov 2014 #24

Since when is a simple suggestion to SheilaT Nov 2014 #175

wow. OP didn't respond within 15 minutes. That means, exactly, nothing. magical thyme Nov 2014 #26

When you're in a hole stop digging. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #34

yep. I've seen this movie before. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #99

They aren't interested in what you have to say or the facts. nt stevenleser Nov 2014 #240

Okay, I give up. What DOES the OP want? brooklynite Nov 2014 #77

Nothing. Not a thing. Glitterati Nov 2014 #87

Many people want to know nothing about what goes on in reality. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #132

I think the OP and the supporters are bogus. upaloopa Nov 2014 #89

I agree with you GitRDun Nov 2014 #122

Just for you. Glitterati Nov 2014 #157

Welcome to the ignore list GitRDun Nov 2014 #251

THANK you! Glitterati Nov 2014 #258

Here ya go Glitterati Nov 2014 #153

Have you updated your APTC for 2015 yet? WonderGrunion Nov 2014 #199

Apparently not jberryhill Nov 2014 #292

Have you tried visiting humana.com/learnmore? BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #333

I have. Nothing there. Glitterati Nov 2014 #347

Um, affordable health coverage? Brigid Nov 2014 #171

OP didn't say ACA was going up. OP said it doesn't matter what the Supreme Court does magical thyme Nov 2014 #23

The OP repeatedly says that ACA is going up. drm604 Nov 2014 #35

That's simply a lie Glitterati Nov 2014 #37

"ACA is going up like a rocket" Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #40

ONCE. Where did I "repeat" said fact, much less "repeatedly" as you stated Glitterati Nov 2014 #42

No it does not. magical thyme Nov 2014 #43

"ACA is going up like a rocket " 5th line of OP GusBob Nov 2014 #111

And, for CLARITY, would you please post the "repeated" instances? Glitterati Nov 2014 #135

That's the same argument as "IT's not the gun that kills, it's the bullets." egduj Nov 2014 #308

the point is that the OP's health insurance has roughly quadrupled magical thyme Nov 2014 #346

and its baloney....she hasn't yet applied for the subsidy....its not open yet... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #328

Are you not on Medicare? You receive a widows pension. yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #11

No to Medicare Glitterati Nov 2014 #12

Thank you! yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #18

No to bronze Glitterati Nov 2014 #20

Understand that for sure! yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #30

That's too bad. Nationwide Kaiser Foundation is predicting a slight decrease . . . . . . Hoyt Nov 2014 #13

Nothing to change the subsidy Glitterati Nov 2014 #15

That's not the point - something did change.... jberryhill Nov 2014 #317

your subsidy will be based on the overall premium CreekDog Nov 2014 #422

It was predicted in MN that the increase was around %14 but mine is well over 35%. glinda Nov 2014 #154

Read the "NOTE" in the letter jberryhill Nov 2014 #303

Wow. So sorry. But no surprise. Privatized healthcare and healthcare insurance must die. nt Zorra Nov 2014 #25

Thank you, but the problem is Glitterati Nov 2014 #45

The exchange opens on Friday. Hopefully you will find a plan you can afford there after Zorra Nov 2014 #82

This is a 370% increase Glitterati Nov 2014 #136

Once more... you are misreading a somewhat deceptive letter jberryhill Nov 2014 #325

no it's not a 370% increase, in your premium, it's a 14% increase CreekDog Nov 2014 #424

My out of pocket MONTHLY PREMIUM increases 370% Glitterati Nov 2014 #495

Sorry for your predicament CANDO Nov 2014 #449

One of the things that's so great about the exchange is that you are not tied to that company stevenleser Nov 2014 #28

Stop it, young man! babylonsister Nov 2014 #33

What part of "the exchange is not open yet" Glitterati Nov 2014 #39

So... you don't know what's available... lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #47

Perhaps you don't understand? Glitterati Nov 2014 #51

I think that person understands just fine. Until the exchange opens, your position is not clear. stevenleser Nov 2014 #65

And, I won't bother posting here Glitterati Nov 2014 #70

DU'ers have always been pretty demanding in terms of wanting to know the complete facts of a stevenleser Nov 2014 #78

I demanded no such thing Glitterati Nov 2014 #83

Yes, that is exactly what you are demanding. And you condemn anyone who doesnt do it. nt stevenleser Nov 2014 #108

Bzzzzzzzt. Wrong again. Glitterati Nov 2014 #131

Everytime I refresh your OP, more people are pointing out exactly what I said to you. nt stevenleser Nov 2014 #145

Just for you. Glitterati Nov 2014 #160

Jesus Christ on a trailer hitch LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #147

Yes I think so.. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2014 #231

actually most DUers support single payer, and I'm among them CreekDog Nov 2014 #426

seems to me you might be assuming that there will be offerings that will be LOWER rates, rather than 2banon Nov 2014 #101

No, exactly the opposite. I'm assuming nothing. The OP is assuming their position is hopeless. nt stevenleser Nov 2014 #105

To my reading, the OP is assuming UN-affordable INCREASES across the board. 2banon Nov 2014 #120

Exactly. The OP is assuming without the facts to support it. nt stevenleser Nov 2014 #124

Real Life Notification and EXPERIENCE has a bit more weight than obtuse denial. 2banon Nov 2014 #133

Nope. We won't know the facts for two days. nt stevenleser Nov 2014 #141

FACT. Right. Here. Glitterati Nov 2014 #166

wow. 2banon Nov 2014 #207

You need to go on your exchange to see if there are lower premium plans. Fla Dem Nov 2014 #38

I will when the exchange OPENS Glitterati Nov 2014 #41

Here's another article, not the one I originally read, but some of the same info. Fla Dem Nov 2014 #52

Okay, I get it. You have given up IN ADVANCE. All the best to you, anyway. nt Hekate Nov 2014 #53

Totally uncalled for. Glitterati Nov 2014 #64

The exchange opens in less than 48 hours, fyi nt riderinthestorm Nov 2014 #61

Am I the only one thinking that both those numbers seem really low? theboss Nov 2014 #44

Feel free to search on my older posts Glitterati Nov 2014 #46

Err... Oilwellian Nov 2014 #63

Humana's rates are going up. passiveporcupine Nov 2014 #214

You got it jberryhill Nov 2014 #330

No, no, no...insurance companies have to charge everyone in an age bracket the same amount CreekDog Nov 2014 #431

This is Open Enrollment time. Go to the exchange and find another provider. That's what it's for. Hekate Nov 2014 #50

Not YET. Glitterati Nov 2014 #55

So you've given up in despair in advance of the actual open enrollment. Got it. Best of luck to you. Hekate Nov 2014 #59

Once again, your nastiness shows your true nature Glitterati Nov 2014 #68

Open enrollment doesn't start until the 15th. hughee99 Nov 2014 #60

that's my understanding also...and i understand the fear and panic too noiretextatique Nov 2014 #198

no, the old plan has increased by 14% CreekDog Nov 2014 #432

and the MONTHLY PREMIUM increased 370% Glitterati Nov 2014 #494

you still don't know what the 2015 subsidy will be RussBLib Nov 2014 #538

I understand that NOW. Glitterati Nov 2014 #542

massive confusion, and anger RussBLib Nov 2014 #548

Like being tied to a train track with the train barrelling right for us Glitterati Nov 2014 #549

I told you REPEATEDLY VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #554

And I told you REPEATEDLY Glitterati Nov 2014 #555

then stop telling untruths... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #556

Then you will be ignored Glitterati Nov 2014 #557

but it wont stop me from pointing out to every one else your misdeeds and falsehoods.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #559

While they laugh their ass off at you. Glitterati Nov 2014 #560

Oh no they wont....not in this case. I have first hand experience with this topic! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #562

You're very brave... Hekate Nov 2014 #649

No, it hasn't. Humana doesn't even know what your premium will be yet Recursion Nov 2014 #663

could you please help me with this... hughee99 Nov 2014 #539

Mine going from 170 to 450 voteearlyvoteoften Nov 2014 #66

THIS is what many here are glossing over B2G Nov 2014 #88

I have no intention of doing that. Glitterati Nov 2014 #90

I understand. Also keep in mind the penalty is tripling next year B2G Nov 2014 #92

I won't face a penalty Glitterati Nov 2014 #95

there is no penalty for low income folks CreekDog Nov 2014 #436

New here had to respond to glitterati e-cigdub Nov 2014 #67

Thank you. You are making me cry. Glitterati Nov 2014 #72

Make that two of us....(There are more, trust me) LovingA2andMI Nov 2014 #193

Thank you. Glitterati Nov 2014 #203

You're not alone.... SammyWinstonJack Nov 2014 #256

no, the insurance isn't going up by 370%. CreekDog Nov 2014 #437

That is the estimated increase in her share though, which is the bottom line for the OP. TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #487

Your hatred of Obama is noted Capt. Obvious Nov 2014 #71

OMG! OMG! OMG! Glitterati Nov 2014 #74

You don't have Medicare? If you have SS, don't you have Medicare? Something is missing here. shraby Nov 2014 #73

You're wrong. Glitterati Nov 2014 #79

you don't qualify for medicare until you are 65, but can qualify for SS magical thyme Nov 2014 #354

Your coverage will continue at the current rate MineralMan Nov 2014 #75

I know. Thank you for that, though. Glitterati Nov 2014 #80

Will the subsidies be increased to keep out of pocket similar? Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2014 #94

I have no clue, nor any way to find that out until the exchange opens. Glitterati Nov 2014 #96

I simply don't know. MineralMan Nov 2014 #97

What do you pay for part b, part D and do you have a supplemental for deductibles? randys1 Nov 2014 #454

Part B is $99, automatically deducted from my SS payment. MineralMan Nov 2014 #478

don't worry, the kings of condescension are here to tell you how wrong you are. KG Nov 2014 #85

AND how mean I am being to Obama Glitterati Nov 2014 #86

Wow. For a community supposedly concerned about the poor B2G Nov 2014 #91

Thank you. Sad, isn't it? Glitterati Nov 2014 #93

Believe me, I feel for you! CountAllVotes Nov 2014 #100

Welll, I'm happy to scan the letter I got this morning for anyone who chooses to disbelieve Glitterati Nov 2014 #104

This whole thing seems to be a big racket IMO CountAllVotes Nov 2014 #127

Not all of DU LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #151

True, true. Glitterati Nov 2014 #170

Agreed LittleBlue Nov 2014 #134

Thank you. Glitterati Nov 2014 #138

much more concerned about the president's reputation Doctor_J Nov 2014 #252

she's getting a thrashing for what she said about the law, including getting key facts wrong CreekDog Nov 2014 #440

I said NOTHING about ACA Glitterati Nov 2014 #455

you said it was going up like a rocket, you said that in your OP CreekDog Nov 2014 #460

Why, yes, I did say my ACA PREMIUM was going up like a rocket Glitterati Nov 2014 #486

Don't lecture us on concern for the poor with respect to insurance costs CreekDog Nov 2014 #446

LMFAO ..."all" of DU cares about the poor? L0oniX Nov 2014 #450

I'm concerned for the poor *and* concerned about disinformation. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #503

Sorry, but no relief until I can obtain the information I need Glitterati Nov 2014 #510

Humana is not Humane DustyJoe Nov 2014 #98

+1 CountAllVotes Nov 2014 #103

So you don't qualify for Medicaid or Medicare I assume. I would see what other alternatives there still_one Nov 2014 #102

No to both Glitterati Nov 2014 #109

If you cannot handle $100 a month, how will you pay for Medicare B passiveporcupine Nov 2014 #305

I won't Glitterati Nov 2014 #327

The new enrollment period doesn't even start until Nov 15 treestar Nov 2014 #114

I got one too, from Humana shenmue Nov 2014 #125

The insurance companies already know their rates B2G Nov 2014 #130

I got my notice from Humana this morning also. Autumn Nov 2014 #311

Truly mazes me how many people here think changing insurance plans every year is a good idea. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #140

And changing doctors with those plan changes Glitterati Nov 2014 #143

It is absolutely asinine. How many uneducated and lower IQ citizens are swimming in it right now? Ed Suspicious Nov 2014 #551

"It's one of the great things about the ACA!!! Those countries with UHC don't know how bad they hav Doctor_J Nov 2014 #618

I changed plans pretty much every year since I started working Recursion Nov 2014 #664

The majority of these responses are pretty appalling. Tatiana Nov 2014 #144

Thank you. But, I don't live in a state with expanded Medicaid. Glitterati Nov 2014 #148

Questions LynnTTT Nov 2014 #158

Here is all you need Glitterati Nov 2014 #163

Looks like you're bearing the full brunt of the policy increase B2G Nov 2014 #177

Well, hey, my income WILL increase 1.7% with COLA Glitterati Nov 2014 #178

I'm hoping it's a wash for you B2G Nov 2014 #186

You have got it exactly! yallerdawg Nov 2014 #222

Look closer at the letter Glitterati Nov 2014 #228

See, they are using your 2014 amount. yallerdawg Nov 2014 #232

"(Using your 2014 ATPC amount)" jberryhill Nov 2014 #339

I think the subsidy is only recalculated if income changes B2G Nov 2014 #234

SORRY LynnTTT Nov 2014 #310

"The key question is will your subsidy increase next year to offset it." jberryhill Nov 2014 #337

I'd definitely look into updating your APTC Oilwellian Nov 2014 #194

Thank you, Oilwellian. Glitterati Nov 2014 #208

I feel bad for you! Damn insurance companies suck. DrewFlorida Nov 2014 #161

Thank you. Glitterati Nov 2014 #165

I think I would have posted that on DU. I think that is awful. C Moon Nov 2014 #164

k/r I hope you can find a solution nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #168

Japan has mandatory insurance coverage and co-pays (but no deductibles) Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #239

OP, I'm so sorry you're going through this. darkangel218 Nov 2014 #173

Thank you. Glitterati Nov 2014 #174

I'm not surprised that the ACA turned out to be a failure, darkangel218 Nov 2014 #182

THIS IS PERFECT..... LovingA2andMI Nov 2014 #225

Dear God florida08 Nov 2014 #205

Do you not qualify for a subsidy? Are you in a Red state? That isn't the fault of the ACA. n/t pnwmom Nov 2014 #179

Here are your answers Glitterati Nov 2014 #183

If you can't afford $100 now, how will you afford the Medicare supplement you will need in a couple pnwmom Nov 2014 #192

I won't. Glitterati Nov 2014 #215

That is the amount you'd pay "based on your 2014 APTC amount." frazzled Nov 2014 #545

Her premium quote is after the federal subsidy. darkangel218 Nov 2014 #187

Thank you for pointing that out. Glitterati Nov 2014 #190

Yes, I see that now. $100 a month is inexpensive for someone that age. pnwmom Nov 2014 #212

Really? darkangel218 Nov 2014 #227

She is 62 and has a chronic illness. The cost could have been in the thousands before the ACA. pnwmom Nov 2014 #276

Right, she should just shut up and starve LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #278

She can always buy cat food. It's cheap enough isn't it ? Autumn Nov 2014 #253

Many people would love to kill off ObamaCare - Boudica the Lyoness Nov 2014 #533

0 in insurance premiums Glitterati Nov 2014 #537

Well shit - you pre-ObamaCare Boudica the Lyoness Nov 2014 #568

Where the fuck do you get the poster wants to kill off Obamacare?? Autumn Nov 2014 #578

...after the 2014 subsidy.... jberryhill Nov 2014 #344

Exactly. SoapBox Nov 2014 #200

There is a way for Medicare to help you pay, if your income is below a certain amount SoCalDem Nov 2014 #180

Medicare part b costs about 100 dollars a month. What if you can't afford that? still_one Nov 2014 #185

I can't. But I won't be given an option Glitterati Nov 2014 #191

i know, you mentioned that. What do others do in that situation? You are in an still_one Nov 2014 #229

No one can "garnish" social security except the IRS Glitterati Nov 2014 #247

Medicare is deducted monthly from your Social Security payment. virgogal Nov 2014 #361

You can decline, it, but then you will only have part A SoCalDem Nov 2014 #217

That is what I was trying to point out for those who are under Medicare it isnt still_one Nov 2014 #235

We are actually paying a LOT more..My husband's policy at work SoCalDem Nov 2014 #243

There is also the supplemental which covers what part B doesn't, so that can add to the costs of the still_one Nov 2014 #373

That's how we went.. We ended up stuck with Kaiser SoCalDem Nov 2014 #558

Drug coverage is another premium. It adds up. If you like Kaiser still_one Nov 2014 #596

We LOATHE Kaiser SoCalDem Nov 2014 #597

Don't hedge, tell me what you really think about Kaiser? Only kidding. I know people who have both still_one Nov 2014 #636

Many may not realize that Medicare part B is about 100 dollars a month. I don't know still_one Nov 2014 #181

So, without knowing what your alternatives are, you're complaining in advance. pnwmom Nov 2014 #184

I posted FACTS Glitterati Nov 2014 #188

Yes, Humana is raising its rates for the insurance you chose. But the FACTS pnwmom Nov 2014 #196

Oh! Wow! I didn't know that already! Glitterati Nov 2014 #218

Why are you so eager to complain when the exchange isn't even open yet? pnwmom Nov 2014 #219

Perhaps a lesson in reading comprehension will help? Glitterati Nov 2014 #236

That's funny. You should read the OP you wrote. Or maybe someone wrote it for you, pnwmom Nov 2014 #260

Once again, FACTS, not complaints Glitterati Nov 2014 #499

That you will have to go back to being uninsured is not a fact. pnwmom Nov 2014 #544

HA!!! greytdemocrat Nov 2014 #210

i mean really...this is not even about Obama noiretextatique Nov 2014 #226

I would think the President, himself, would be disgusted with some of the comments here. KMOD Nov 2014 #245

Holy cow.. darkangel218 Nov 2014 #189

she is not complaining...she is afraid she cannot get an affordable policy noiretextatique Nov 2014 #216

Thank you. Glitterati Nov 2014 #224

don't sweat it noiretextatique Nov 2014 #230

I don't blame you for being upset kcr Nov 2014 #197

What state are you in Glitt? nt B2G Nov 2014 #201

Georgia. Where....... Glitterati Nov 2014 #233

i hope you can find an affordable plans that suits your needs noiretextatique Nov 2014 #206

101 a month...that's a hell of a deal. ileus Nov 2014 #213

That's nice. Good you have a job. Glitterati Nov 2014 #237

This message was self-deleted by its author OKNancy Nov 2014 #223

Many people are advising to get another plan if the cost goes up - isn't this a huge hassle? daredtowork Nov 2014 #241

No. My son had to switch last year, and one of the factors he paid attention to pnwmom Nov 2014 #250

wouldn't that only be possible in huge urban areas daredtowork Nov 2014 #259

I know some regions have fewer choices than others, and I hope they're right that more insurers pnwmom Nov 2014 #265

I'm projecting a bit here daredtowork Nov 2014 #294

It's the same for me Glitterati Nov 2014 #320

Yes -- and it's always been possible. Everyone who's ever lost insurance from an employer pnwmom Nov 2014 #386

I'm not knocking it - I'm an epic beneficiary of the ACA daredtowork Nov 2014 #404

I think we're pretty much on the same page. pnwmom Nov 2014 #409

What I'm worried about is daredtowork Nov 2014 #420

We all have to go back to exchanges to renew annually. yallerdawg Nov 2014 #242

Her subsidy has already been calculated and applied to the new payment B2G Nov 2014 #267

From your recent OP link: yallerdawg Nov 2014 #285

Well that may help, because B2G Nov 2014 #290

NO IT HAS NOT jberryhill Nov 2014 #348

Hey, this is confusing as hell for a lot of us B2G Nov 2014 #353

I'm not yelling at you, but at Humana for sending a misleading letter jberryhill Nov 2014 #363

They're just going on the information they have B2G Nov 2014 #367

Humana is informing their clients in a timely manner that they are making changes. "Timely" meaning Hekate Nov 2014 #388

I think you've misunderstood the subsidy. Imperialism Inc. Nov 2014 #350

welcome to the "healthcare is just like used cars" US Doctor_J Nov 2014 #248

I believe you gwheezie Nov 2014 #255

I hope you are able to find something that works for you. historylovr Nov 2014 #263

That kind of a jump means only one thing Warpy Nov 2014 #264

The attacks in this thread on someone that can't afford decent healthcare are disgusting. LexVegas Nov 2014 #269

You have to understand, defending the ACA is WAY more important LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #299

That is unfortunate BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #283

Seems like you should be paying ~ $31 a month (5.5% of the listed premium). pinto Nov 2014 #287

Sorry but, it is time to shop again. Roselma Nov 2014 #296

Is it going to be like this every year?? B2G Nov 2014 #301

Yes Roselma Nov 2014 #304

Then it's a total clusterfuck. nt B2G Nov 2014 #309

If a person is paying only 5% of their income to insurance and "supports" Roselma Nov 2014 #341

The BOG does Doctor_J Nov 2014 #312

There may be some members from Canada who won't mind Capt. Obvious Nov 2014 #598

The horror of more choices! gmb92 Nov 2014 #414

No Doctor_J Nov 2014 #616

My premium went down the first year of ACA gmb92 Nov 2014 #623

I cannot believe the way you're being attacked in this thread. egduj Nov 2014 #315

Shop around gmb92 Nov 2014 #324

Still comes down to this LynnTTT Nov 2014 #331

You're a piece of work sunnystarr Nov 2014 #340

Why, thank you Glitterati Nov 2014 #345

That is a rude and uncaring post. madfloridian Nov 2014 #356

Just noticed your insurance company assumes the same subsidy amount gmb92 Nov 2014 #342

I'm sorry, but I'll not update Glitterati Nov 2014 #349

Well best wishes to you anyways gmb92 Nov 2014 #359

WE HAVE A WINNER! NO MORE CALLS PLEASE jberryhill Nov 2014 #351

The letter itself is not so misleading gmb92 Nov 2014 #364

Please don't attribute things to me that I did not say, nor imply Glitterati Nov 2014 #370

Ignore the tone and focus on the substance gmb92 Nov 2014 #402

Excellent post. Adsos Letter Nov 2014 #496

Thanks! gmb92 Nov 2014 #501

The utility of this letter in Humana's... Adsos Letter Nov 2014 #518

People certainly showed their true colors in this thread BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #343

+ 343 nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #352

It sure is ugly, isn't it? Glitterati Nov 2014 #357

You mean like reading comprehension? jberryhill Nov 2014 #362

Yeah, it could be a miscalculation on the OP's part. We'll see BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #365

I think we are just jaded LynnTTT Nov 2014 #387

You HAVE the full story Glitterati Nov 2014 #389

Well the premium rates are not that good BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #393

Mine was wonderful! Glitterati Nov 2014 #400

Not politically homeless, don't worry BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #415

I am. Glitterati Nov 2014 #429

As my grandmother said; UncleYoder Nov 2014 #594

Thanks, Megan! Glitterati Nov 2014 #595

Everyone who disagrees with OP is labeled "Meaghan McCain" now, like a broken record. nt stevenleser Nov 2014 #621

so, you never clarify the amount of the subsidy? Sheepshank Nov 2014 #640

Really? And subject myself to more of this? Glitterati Nov 2014 #641

you are the one who is so hot and heavy to get out the facts Sheepshank Nov 2014 #642

Perhaps it could have something to do with being called a LIAR Glitterati Nov 2014 #643

Thank you, jberryhill Glitterati Nov 2014 #375

think about how Humans timed this jberryhill Nov 2014 #462

With most of them I already knew their true colors. Union Scribe Nov 2014 #645

Sorry people in this thread have been so rude and uncaring to you. madfloridian Nov 2014 #355

Thank you, madfloridian. Glitterati Nov 2014 #360

Those uncaring comments are spoken out of ignorance. When the ACA first became a reality and some still_one Nov 2014 #385

Still inexcusable Glitterati Nov 2014 #392

K&R for the BOG bahrbearian Nov 2014 #358

Question: the op was getting assistance, will the assistance $$ go up to cover the increase in cost? peacebird Nov 2014 #369

I don't know and have no way to find out until the 15th Glitterati Nov 2014 #377

Please update when you find out, ok? I would hope the assistance covers the increase premium peacebird Nov 2014 #379

I will be happy to update a select few via PM Glitterati Nov 2014 #390

My suggestion is the ones that are disrespectful you can put on ignore still_one Nov 2014 #391

yeah I'd like an update when you get the chance, please BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #394

Will do. Glitterati Nov 2014 #403

is that sabbat hunter Nov 2014 #371

Your income level must have changed, while I want your premium to be ZERO, $101 is still HUNDREDS randys1 Nov 2014 #417

Please read the thread Glitterati Nov 2014 #423

I got a letter that my plan ohheckyeah Nov 2014 #427

Oh, uggh. That hurts. Yo_Mama Nov 2014 #522

Yes and I need my insurance. I'm recovering from a stroke. ohheckyeah Nov 2014 #637

HMOs suck for stroke Yo_Mama Nov 2014 #639

Thanks - I hope ohheckyeah Nov 2014 #654

and then there is the truth... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #430

I got a similar letter from Anthem... TheProgressive Nov 2014 #435

is that you WilliamPitt? krawhitham Nov 2014 #439

What a sad commentary Glitterati Nov 2014 #452

DU owes you an apology. AngryAmish Nov 2014 #464

Hell, it's WASN'T dissent. The OP was nothing more than INFORMATION Glitterati Nov 2014 #469

pot calling the kettle black krawhitham Nov 2014 #490

I can't hardly imagine a $27/month health insurance premium. cheapdate Nov 2014 #442

It doesn't help to compare apples and oranges Glitterati Nov 2014 #448

Listen up, cheapdate Nov 2014 #468

And, now YOU listen up Glitterati Nov 2014 #472

Oh, please! You're practically begging for it! cheapdate Nov 2014 #476

No just the facts Glitterati Nov 2014 #491

You're a basket case. cheapdate Nov 2014 #493

Should the OP have just been quiet about her fear and concern? Oilwellian Nov 2014 #502

I didn't belittle her in my original post. cheapdate Nov 2014 #506

She did not call your post "dogpile" Oilwellian Nov 2014 #509

Well, you can make what you want of this: cheapdate Nov 2014 #511

Just saw a similar situation with Blue Cross Blue Shield. woo me with science Nov 2014 #443

How bad is it? woo me with science Nov 2014 #445

Wait a minute - I have the ACA and I do get a discount. A couple of months ago they contacted me jillan Nov 2014 #447

No. Didn't happen. Glitterati Nov 2014 #451

If I were you, I'd call them. I called them when I got my notice about proving income & they were jillan Nov 2014 #457

That's rough Shivering Jemmy Nov 2014 #456

Isn't this a complete shitshow. AngryAmish Nov 2014 #461

465 posts in 5 1/2 hours... TreasonousBastard Nov 2014 #482

If anything, it's a shock to make people not renew on the Exchange. moriah Nov 2014 #507

The ACA is built on lies. It is a fraud. Gullible supporters still demand lockstep praise and Skip Intro Nov 2014 #492

you want everyone added to Medicaid by ACA thrown off of it? CreekDog Nov 2014 #675

I saw this earlier so I'll pass a link along Left2Tackle Nov 2014 #498

TeaPubliKlans say "don't get sick and if you do, die quickly" TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #500

$101 a month? Where to I sign up? Atman Nov 2014 #504

Are you below the poverty line? BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #508

Agreed OBblueMeanie Nov 2014 #512

It's not rude to LynnTTT Nov 2014 #514

ROFL, no, not at all rude </sarcasm> Glitterati Nov 2014 #516

Go to Healthcare.gov and check all the plans now - windowshopping is open. Yo_Mama Nov 2014 #515

As I have said, REPEATEDLY Glitterati Nov 2014 #519

It just helps to look at the prices, which are estimated. Yo_Mama Nov 2014 #521

I can't right now Glitterati Nov 2014 #523

Fuck Roberts and the other four for not striking AFC down Reter Nov 2014 #524

Have you spoken with any insurance agents? musical_soul Nov 2014 #525

I spoke with the Navigator at my Doctor's office on November 4th Glitterati Nov 2014 #526

Find an agent. musical_soul Nov 2014 #547

My experience last year with an agent was horrible. Glitterati Nov 2014 #553

The OP has no intention of finding another plan... SoapBox Nov 2014 #527

You're EXACTLY right Glitterati Nov 2014 #529

I'm very sorry this is happening to you enigmatic Nov 2014 #531

Thank you. Glitterati Nov 2014 #536

My first post Julz Nov 2014 #532

I soooooooo feel for you. Glitterati Nov 2014 #535

Thank you :) Julz Nov 2014 #541

Remember lancer78 Nov 2014 #570

Not 9.5% Glitterati Nov 2014 #583

if your subsidy percentages remain the same, then you should only see a 14% lancer78 Nov 2014 #647

Try living in a state that refused all aid. raven mad Nov 2014 #571

I do. Your point is what? Glitterati Nov 2014 #579

Single-payer or universal medicare is the only way to go. raven mad Nov 2014 #602

Something sure has to be done. Glitterati Nov 2014 #613

Wow, that's a heck of a deal. mahina Nov 2014 #572

Soooo, I should what? Just shut the fuck up and pay? Glitterati Nov 2014 #580

Charmed. mahina Nov 2014 #648

I would KILL for a rate like that. I HOPE to get one for 100/month - Maine-i-acs Nov 2014 #575

I agree. My husband adds me to his plan for $450/mo so anything less Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #577

We will trade lives, OK? Glitterati Nov 2014 #582

But you don't know that your premium will be $100 jberryhill Nov 2014 #590

I'm going based on the FACTS I have in hand Glitterati Nov 2014 #592

actually the $100 isn't a bill, so you aren't going on facts CreekDog Nov 2014 #600

It most CERTAINLY IS Glitterati Nov 2014 #607

do you smoke? CreekDog Nov 2014 #631

ROFL, I guess you need to speak with Humana then Glitterati Nov 2014 #632

Premium anounts are not based on state B2G Nov 2014 #633

In no way did I mean to come off sounding like I was Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #601

I remember the days when Glitterati Nov 2014 #611

Every Christmas, someone in my family Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #617

If memory serves, HMOs were Hillary Clinton's Glitterati Nov 2014 #619

I was WRONG. HMOs were Richard Nixon Glitterati Nov 2014 #627

HMOs/PPOs are very good for the people who are very sick. moriah Nov 2014 #628

I remember the days of my mother, struggling to pay my doctor's bills, until.... moriah Nov 2014 #625

Yeah, I remember those days, too Glitterati Nov 2014 #626

I guess I am older than you. I have vague recollections of Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #630

I'm only 34, so you may be right. moriah Nov 2014 #634

Are you living off of widow's benefits through Social Security? moriah Nov 2014 #622

So, I should thank my lucky stars, huh? Glitterati Nov 2014 #581

You probably wouldn't kill to be on a widow's benefit with chronic health problems too. moriah Nov 2014 #615

I have been here since 2001. There was a VERY significant change in this site around 2008. DrDan Nov 2014 #585

Thanks, DrDan Glitterati Nov 2014 #586

Member for ten years here and you speak the absolute TRUTH! ReverendDeuce Nov 2014 #593

The one thing that has not changed is that DUers are demanding in terms of complete facts stevenleser Nov 2014 #606

Pathetic attempt to justify your Meghan McCain behavior. Glitterati Nov 2014 #608

Nope. It is what I have been saying since my first response to you. Nice try though. stevenleser Nov 2014 #610

Toodles. Glitterati Nov 2014 #612

I would venture to say that even posting the complete facts would not stop DrDan Nov 2014 #620

Of course it wouldn't Glitterati Nov 2014 #624

Yes, it would have. That or acknowledgement that they did not have all the facts. stevenleser Nov 2014 #655

I will offer no apology to those uncaring DUers who attacked this poster DrDan Nov 2014 #656

Oh we cared. We also knew there was a good chance OP was wrong. And we definitely knew... stevenleser Nov 2014 #661

Complete and utter bullshit Union Scribe Nov 2014 #646

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #644

Make sure you are getting your subsidy. And ...it's Open Season. Try another plan. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2014 #650

3 Observations and 1 Question chieftain Nov 2014 #652

All cogent observations, chieftan. And an excellent question. nt Hekate Nov 2014 #658

based on the responses, I think she has no such obligation DrDan Nov 2014 #667

Any updates today after the exchange opened ? scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #653

We await the answer with bated breath Hekate Nov 2014 #657

Yep. OP and those who defended OP should apologize for this display, but I'm not holding my breath stevenleser Nov 2014 #662

wise on your part - no apologies will be coming as none are necessary DrDan Nov 2014 #668

Yes, they are. Again, See my 661. nt stevenleser Nov 2014 #670

I saw it . . . and see no need to apologize to those who offered blatant insults - I also see no DrDan Nov 2014 #672

Steven, this "display" as you call it showed some of you up for being heartless and rude madfloridian Nov 2014 #674

OP...I'm sorry to hear of your hardship OhioChick Nov 2014 #660

Was about to post the same thing. pecwae Nov 2014 #666

yep - I have been here since 2001 and have not witnessed the visciousness and lack of compassion as DrDan Nov 2014 #669

Mine went up 20 percent. Luckily, I went back to the ACA site, put my numbers back in, ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #673