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2naSalit

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102. Well, it goes like this

Tue Nov 18, 2014, 11:31 PM

Nov 2014

once the environment is trashed up here, there's little left to save elsewhere. Much of the water source for a big chunk of the US comes from here, and so does a lot of carbon transfer from the forests, and the wild animal population is a part of all that. If we let this all go to ruin, it's game over for many species, including our own.

There was once a radical author, Burroughs, who said of our species, "Humans are the only species on the planet who willfully pollute/poison their own bodies..." (paraphrasing but pretty close to the quote I heard years ago.) We need to clean up our act and a lot of that means how we use the natural world - I don't like the term resources.

I know there are lots of people who care but it needs to be accompanied by action. This one vote is a tiny band-aid on a very large problem. I hope that there will be some movement in that concern and soon.

Anyway, I do appreciate your thoughtful posts, I don't always comment but I do rec a lot of them!

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How About a Collective THANK YOU to the Senate Dems & Indies Who VOTED NO on XLKeystone? [View all] Cha Nov 2014 OP

Here, here! Thanks true Dems! nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #1

True Thinking Dems.. they're out there, ChisolmTrailDem! Cha Nov 2014 #5

If you can, write your Senators who voted (I have TWO!) SomeGuyInEagan Nov 2014 #170

Cornyn and Cruz... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #171

I have 2, too! NastyRiffraff Nov 2014 #172

merkley & wyden hopemountain Nov 2014 #195

Mahalo Cha, so glad my Democratic Senator Nelson voted against... steve2470 Nov 2014 #2

I know, steve.. I had to look twice when I didn't see Sen Bill Nelson on the Yes list! Cha Nov 2014 #8

Our FL Nelson voted no? mcar Nov 2014 #49

WOW, Maybe He Got My Letter!! ChiciB1 Nov 2014 #67

Thank you for writing Sen Bill Nelson, ChiciB! Maybe more than a few others wrote too? Cha Nov 2014 #156

Baby Steps For Now... ChiciB1 Nov 2014 #181

Yeah, that's too bad about the Fla Democratic Party, ChiciB.. and the combination of Cha Nov 2014 #186

K&R! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2014 #3

Thanks RKP! Cha Nov 2014 #10

And a special thank you to President Obama...for pissing off the Republicans on this issue: Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #4

Oh! someone should ask Boehner is he thinks the US Senate is "calling the American people stupid"-- Raine1967 Nov 2014 #9

Yes! Another Special Mahalo to Pres Obama for Educating the American People on KeystoneXL Cha Nov 2014 #12

Thank you! Raine1967 Nov 2014 #6

Yes, I was hoping others would get on and THANK their Senators for Voting NO if that were the case! Cha Nov 2014 #14

I also saw that Warner isn't on the list. DU Home Page 'Fracking oked for GW National Forest' appalachiablue Nov 2014 #85

sadly, he supported xl. i saw his name on another list. hopemountain Nov 2014 #203

Great win, unfortunately I think it will pass in January MiniMe Nov 2014 #7

You are among a few people that I see post this. Question: Raine1967 Nov 2014 #11

Well, mitch is quoted as saying it will pass in January, Raine.. but, I just saw this.. Cha Nov 2014 #22

I just don;t see how they will go thru this entire process again. Raine1967 Nov 2014 #59

I feel it's 100 percent a top issue. bigwillq Nov 2014 #71

I just don't know. The hose never bothered to bring it up before. Raine1967 Nov 2014 #90

I think you have a good point. Why let Pres Obama have the upper hand with a veto rhett o rick Nov 2014 #168

They will have this fight all over again in January. totodeinhere Nov 2014 #87

ya think? hopemountain Nov 2014 #201

You might have misread my comment. I am not advocating for the pipeline. I am totodeinhere Nov 2014 #208

are you doing anything to stop it? hopemountain Nov 2014 #219

What I may or may not be doing is not the point. My comment was about the fact that totodeinhere Nov 2014 #220

yes, your post is the point. hopemountain Nov 2014 #224

How many times has the House voted to repeal Obamacare? MiniMe Nov 2014 #130

Yes, but we still have our Firewall in Chief with a big VETO Pen. We have the moment now Cha Nov 2014 #15

I like that! Firewall-in-Chief! calimary Nov 2014 #122

It's amazing that Senator Feinstein voted it Down, too! We needed every single vote.. just think if Cha Nov 2014 #128

Thank you ChazII Nov 2014 #13

Thank you, Chaz from Arizona! Cha Nov 2014 #17

Thank you! And thanks to Obama for using the bully pulpit, finally!!! grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #16

THANK YOU oldandhappy Nov 2014 #18

And, Mahalo to you, oldandhappy! Cha Nov 2014 #20

thank you sen durbin. kirk must go. mopinko Nov 2014 #19

Yes! Thank you to Senator Durbin, Mo! It seemed like no one knew how he was going to Cha Nov 2014 #24

yeah, a big part of illinois is extractive industries. mopinko Nov 2014 #86

I'm with you, mopinko! Thank you, Sen Durbin! sueh Nov 2014 #113

To Tammy Duckworth running against Mark Kirk in 2016, sueh! Cha Nov 2014 #143

that's the rumor. mopinko Nov 2014 #169

Huge K&R for Democrats who still believe in being Democrats. bullwinkle428 Nov 2014 #21

And, actually Thinking about this and going with the FACTS, bullwinkle! Cha Nov 2014 #27

Hurah! TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #23

PROUD of my two Dem Senators who voted with PBO and against the Kochroaches! freshwest Nov 2014 #25

Hey fresh.. Like your latest cat! Cha Nov 2014 #30

Re: Enough to overcome a filibuster, but not an Obama veto. BP2 Nov 2014 #43

Here's to holding the coalition Together, BP Cha Nov 2014 #44

Boxer is out. She's not running for reelection, so she has no fear. MADem Nov 2014 #62

And a shot to the pills for the one's gobbling Koch mindwalker_i Nov 2014 #26

A BIG THANK YOU to the Senate DEMS! Cha Nov 2014 #33

K&R 2naSalit Nov 2014 #28

That's too bad, 2naSalit.. :( Cha Nov 2014 #35

I totally agree, Cha! 2naSalit Nov 2014 #99

Thank you, 2naSalit.. that means a lot. And, thank you for caring so much about our Cha Nov 2014 #100

Well, it goes like this 2naSalit Nov 2014 #102

Mahalo for that eloquent plea for Action on our Environment.. you're right.. it takes more Cha Nov 2014 #107

Recommended, good thread Cha mvd Nov 2014 #29

Thank you, mvd! Yeah, too bad about Sen Casey.. what was he thinking? Cha Nov 2014 #38

Even DiFi voted no! onecaliberal Nov 2014 #31

I was thinking that, too.. onecaliliberal! Good for DiFi! Cha Nov 2014 #39

In this case every vote counted onecaliberal Nov 2014 #60

Every single solitary vote Counted! We Won by One! Cha Nov 2014 #63

good work senate democrats arely staircase Nov 2014 #32

Mahalo arely! To what you said! Cha Nov 2014 #42

Thank you! Owl Nov 2014 #34

Mahalo to you, Owl! Cha Nov 2014 #50

Thank you Senators! With an extra thank you to Tom Udall and Martin Heinrich, D-NM! Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #36

Yes, Dont call me Shirley! Thank You to Sen Tom Udall and Martin Heinrich, D-New Mexico! Cha Nov 2014 #53

And Michele Lujan Grisham and Ben Ray Lujan! Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #55

Yes, to Michele Lujan Grisham and Ben Ray Lujan! And, Congratulations to Ben Ray Lujan as the.. Cha Nov 2014 #61

Nice! Wow that is such amazing news! A progressive, head of dccc. Move left America! Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #64

And, I just found out he was from New Mexico.. thanks to all this Thanking! Cha Nov 2014 #68

Looks like Santa Fe in the background. Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #69

So beautiful.. I really am enchanted with New Mexico~ Cha Nov 2014 #72

Well, it is the Land of Enchantment Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #76

Oh I know! :) Cha Nov 2014 #78

Thanks to all, especially Stabinow & Levin fadedrose Nov 2014 #37

Good on your Senators, fadedrose! Cha Nov 2014 #48

Thank you. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #40

To Wind and Solar, JD! Cha Nov 2014 #56

The list of those voting NO who are also up for re-election in 2016: BP2 Nov 2014 #41

Thank you, BP.. Pretty sure my Senator Brian Schatz will Win Again.. And those others seem Cha Nov 2014 #70

Thank you to Angus! jopacaco Nov 2014 #45

Mahalo to Angus King, jopacaco! I love these Dems and Indies! He seems like a smart guy.. Cha Nov 2014 #79

In solidarity Thank you. riversedge Nov 2014 #46

To our Solid Dem Pro Environment Coalition, riversedge! Cha Nov 2014 #80

Senators.... irisblue Nov 2014 #47

Bless their Environmental Hearts, irishblue! Cha Nov 2014 #83

How's this a good thing? tooeyeten Nov 2014 #51

Thank You. Segami Nov 2014 #52

Thank you, Segami! It's A Victory.. We Can Build on This! :)))) Cha Nov 2014 #84

K&R stage left Nov 2014 #54

Exactly, stage left! Halelujah! Cha Nov 2014 #88

Yay! both my Dem senators voted against IronLionZion Nov 2014 #57

Isn't it, IronLionZion! Cha Nov 2014 #94

Good 4 them and thank God, but... nikto Nov 2014 #58

No, nikto.. the fight isn't over.. but, it is a Victory today that We Can Build On! Cha Nov 2014 #92

Awesome Cha!!!! Playinghardball Nov 2014 #65

Mahalo Play!!!!!! :) Cha Nov 2014 #95

I'm truly disappointed in Missouri's Sen. Claire McCaskill LongTomH Nov 2014 #66

She's awful. (nt) bigwillq Nov 2014 #81

yeah, it is too bad, LongTomH.. :( It's the opposite of how wonderful it is to see Dems who Cha Nov 2014 #97

K&R TexasTowelie Nov 2014 #73

Thanks TexasT! Cha Nov 2014 #98

The missing one was Sen Baldwin. She's in the last stages of pregnancy and unable FSogol Nov 2014 #74

Oh Thank you FSogal.. someone actually read that! I was so worried I was coming up with 42.. Cha Nov 2014 #104

Sorry, Sogal.. under further review it looks like it's Tammy Duckworth in the House who the Cha Nov 2014 #114

Ooops. You are correct. FSogol Nov 2014 #161

Some good news… midnight Nov 2014 #75

Thanks to 41 Stalwart Dems, midnight! Cha Nov 2014 #108

Yay! shenmue Nov 2014 #77

Huzzah to our 41, shenmue..and it looks like Sen Tammy Baldwin is too close to having a baby to Cha Nov 2014 #109

Awwww! shenmue Nov 2014 #136

Ooooops! Sorry, that's Wrong... I got told that and I don't think it's Baldwin at all ... It's Cha Nov 2014 #137

Oh jeepers shenmue Nov 2014 #140

k&r...Mahalo! Cha!!!! spanone Nov 2014 #82

A'ole pilikia, spanone! Cha Nov 2014 #110

Best Day E V E R! misterhighwasted Nov 2014 #89

Beautiful post, misterhighwasted! lol Cha Nov 2014 #111

thank you Sen. Coons treestar Nov 2014 #91

Yes, Thank you to your Senator Chris Coons, Treestar! Cha Nov 2014 #117

And for gosh sakes, take a moment to write your senators and thank them. Mister Ed Nov 2014 #93

Great Thought, Mister Ed! And, I thank your Sens Franken and Klobuchar, too.. We Needed Them All! Cha Nov 2014 #118

Just sent my senator a thank you note ladym55 Nov 2014 #96

Lucky us to have such thoughtful Reps, ladym! Thank you! Cha Nov 2014 #119

Joe Manchin voted for it. Hubert Flottz Nov 2014 #101

Of course he did, Hubert.. :( Cha Nov 2014 #120

Thanks, Sens Markey and Warren. Markey has long championed the environment. merrily Nov 2014 #103

K & R Iliyah Nov 2014 #105

Lol~ sheshe2 Nov 2014 #106

And, Thanks to your Senators Warren and Markey, she! I could just hug all our Dems who Stood up Cha Nov 2014 #115

Exactly Cha! sheshe2 Nov 2014 #125

Love ya back, sweetie! Cha Nov 2014 #129

Thanks! Call and kick, everybody! grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #112

Glad both of my senators are on there minivan2 Nov 2014 #116

We needed every last one of them, minivan! Thank you to Sens Boxer and Feinstein! Cha Nov 2014 #123

Held them off by one freak'n vote I understand. Now we need that one additional vote for the next lonestarnot Nov 2014 #121

I can't believe the President wouldn't Veto when he knows exactly how much it's Cha Nov 2014 #131

Ditto! lonestarnot Nov 2014 #132

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! denvine Nov 2014 #124

Really, denvine! Many mucho Mahalos! Cha Nov 2014 #133

XLnt! pinboy3niner Nov 2014 #126

Toast our Environmental Dems who aren't buying the insane Bullshyte, pinboy! Cha Nov 2014 #135

... AzDar Nov 2014 #127

To our 41 Environmental Dem Senators, AzDar! Cha Nov 2014 #139

This message was self-deleted by its author redruddyred Nov 2014 #134

Absolutely-- well done. Marr Nov 2014 #138

A big sigh of relief, thank you. n/t Paper Roses Nov 2014 #141

Yes, Paper Roses.. it could have gone the other way and we wouldn't have this Victory to Build on! Cha Nov 2014 #142

Both of mine on that list leftynyc Nov 2014 #144

And, I thank your New York Senators Gillibrand and Schumer, too.. Leftynyc! Cha Nov 2014 #146

Hey, Cha leftynyc Nov 2014 #147

The weather is perfect.. how cold are you in NYC? I hear upstate by the Adirondacks where Cha Nov 2014 #151

I wouldn't want to live upstate leftynyc Nov 2014 #160

That's right.. bundle up and stay warm and cozy.. It was 20 degrees in NYC on Feb 15, 2003 Cha Nov 2014 #162

I remember that leftynyc Nov 2014 #163

19 last night in the catskills Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #177

A Little Early, isn't it! Cha Nov 2014 #190

Yeah! MoonRiver Nov 2014 #145

Tweeted this ! nt steve2470 Nov 2014 #148

Thanks for the Tweet!.. I FB it. Cha Nov 2014 #153

Bill Nelson voted no? tavernier Nov 2014 #149

he did ! steve2470 Nov 2014 #150

Ah, yes. That's more like the Bill tavernier Nov 2014 #158

Unreal, eh, tavernier! Cha Nov 2014 #154

You counted Klobuchar twice, but thanks for list. dmosh42 Nov 2014 #152

OMG! I've been wondering why I had 42 as I said in the OP.. Thanks dmosh.. I'm going to clean Cha Nov 2014 #155

THANK YOU, Senate Dems and Indies!!! Kath1 Nov 2014 #157

It was an especially sweet Victory today, Kath.. so close! And, it was just a hurdle but we made it Cha Nov 2014 #159

Thanks Cha. Too bad ProSense Nov 2014 #164

Thanks ProSense.. we were so Lucky to get our Victory yesterday by 1 Vote! Only a hurdle but Cha Nov 2014 #187

thank you Mark Udall we will miss you. mountain grammy Nov 2014 #165

Thanks to Sen Mark Udall, too, mountain grammy! So sorry to see him go.. but, he did the Cha Nov 2014 #188

He'll be hearing from me. I'll sure try. mountain grammy Nov 2014 #213

Love the fact Nelson of Florida is on your list. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #166

Something or things got to Bill Nelson, NCTraveler! Thanks for the report! Cha Nov 2014 #191

Thanks for the op Cha. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #214

YOu're Welcome and another Mahalo to you, NCT~ Cha Nov 2014 #216

Thank you. jwirr Nov 2014 #167

Just called Senator Shaheen's office to say thank you for her vote. sarge43 Nov 2014 #173

I thank Sen Shaheen, too, sarge! Thank you for calling her office..you know they love feedback. Cha Nov 2014 #192

Thank you to all of them for doing the right thing! sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #174

The voters will remember those that voted Yea and they will be defeated in their next elections. sammy750 Nov 2014 #175

Really bummed at the dems who voted "yes", sammy.. and for what?! Lies! And, so Appreciative Cha Nov 2014 #193

Thank you, thank you, thank you Peacetrain Nov 2014 #176

Thanks to Senator Harkin, Peacetrain! Cha Nov 2014 #194

We are so going to miss him! Peacetrain Nov 2014 #209

Darn.. us too.. out here in America Cha Nov 2014 #211

Thank you. raging moderate Nov 2014 #178

And Thank you, raging moderate~ Cha Nov 2014 #196

Thank you Chris Coons! Fuck you Tom Carper LynneSin Nov 2014 #179

Yeah, what's up with Sen Carper, Lynne? He really believes all those Keystone lies? Cha Nov 2014 #197

He's always been a moderate. LynneSin Nov 2014 #215

Thanks for the report from Delaware.. call me crazy but just because Carper's a moderate does not Cha Nov 2014 #217

Too late. He's a lost cause LynneSin Nov 2014 #218

To all the "you know it will pass in January" sad sacks DonCoquixote Nov 2014 #180

I know huh, DC? This is our Victory now.. only a hurdle but we did it! It could have gone the Cha Nov 2014 #198

A big huge thnks to all who voted for a Nix on Keystone - truedelphi Nov 2014 #182

Thank you for doing your job as elected. valerief Nov 2014 #183

Thank you one and all!!! truebrit71 Nov 2014 #184

Mucho Mahalo! SunSeeker Nov 2014 #185

Hey I say that, SunSeeker.. Cha Nov 2014 #199

Great minds think alike. SunSeeker Nov 2014 #210

:) Cha Nov 2014 #212

YAY! I am so glad Michigan hasn't gone completely bagger. How the hell can we have catbyte Nov 2014 #189

Thank Goodness you have two Democratic Senators, catbyte.. who stood up for our Environment Cha Nov 2014 #200

192 rec darkangel218 Nov 2014 #202

Mahalo darkangel! Cha Nov 2014 #204

Cheers Cha!! darkangel218 Nov 2014 #205

It's a bloomin' miracle in this era of brainwashed lies.. 41 Dems standing up for The Environment in Cha Nov 2014 #206

. darkangel218 Nov 2014 #207

!!!!!!!!! BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2014 #221

Mahalo to all our Environmental Dawgs! Cha Nov 2014 #223

Longterm this is probably a good idea JonLP24 Nov 2014 #222