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zipplewrath

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38. Tad Deceiving

Thu Nov 20, 2014, 06:07 PM

Nov 2014

In fact, Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Jose, and Oakland together cannot control a statewide election in California.

This is a tad deceiving. Those larger metro areas DO dominate the politics. But the municipal areas don't technically qualify as the total area. You can't talk LA without meaning everything from Santa Barbara to Long Beach. And a visit to Ojia will still have value with the Santa Barbara electorate. A visit to Cheyenne is going to be relatively meaningless to the electorate in Jersey City.

The population distribution we are talking about is VERY severe. Just as no one campaigning for Governor of Tennessee worries much about the Buck Snort vote, A presidential campaign isn't going to worry much about the North Dakota vote in a popular election. Every vote counts, but not all activities pursue the same number of votes. They can visit a factory in New Jersey and influence thousands, or they can visit Wyoming and influence hundreds.

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The electoral college- the greatest vote suppressor ever [View all] wilt the stilt Nov 2014 OP

I think that many here might be unpleasantly surprised by a popular vote system Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #1

You're assuming a binary winner-takes-all system unrepentant progress Nov 2014 #2

If you get rid of the electoral college SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #4

You'll notice I was talking in hypotheticals unrepentant progress Nov 2014 #6

Getting one Constitutional amendment done is big enough of a hurdle SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #9

Who cares? unrepentant progress Nov 2014 #10

My bad SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #12

The National Popular Vote Bill - 61% of the way of going into effect mvymvy Nov 2014 #28

Thanks SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #30

and what is wrong with that concept wilt the stilt Nov 2014 #8

congressional districts should have a maximum allowed in any one district wilt the stilt Nov 2014 #5

Yep. unrepentant progress Nov 2014 #7

I have been against the electoral college since 1969 wilt the stilt Nov 2014 #3

The Candidate with the Most Votes Should Win mvymvy Nov 2014 #27

I have a degree in political science from the Electoral College. kwassa Nov 2014 #11

I'm sure the Founding Fathers came up with the idea customerserviceguy Nov 2014 #13

Minorities and women didn't have the vote until 1920 and 1964. CK_John Nov 2014 #22

unless there is sarcasm here ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2014 #42

Yes, thanks customerserviceguy Nov 2014 #45

On paper... world wide wally Nov 2014 #14

I actually think that getting rid of it, would be more of a disenfranchisment KMOD Nov 2014 #15

No shit, that is where the people are! One person, one vote. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #16

Doesn't it already? Through the House votes? n/t KMOD Nov 2014 #17

So issues important to North Dakota don't matter? davidn3600 Nov 2014 #18

A North Dakotan vote shouldn't have more weight in choosing a president ProfessorPlum Nov 2014 #20

You are thinking about it in a skewed way, I think ProfessorPlum Nov 2014 #19

Safe states, and swing states aren't static. KMOD Nov 2014 #31

States' Partisanship Has Hardened mvymvy Nov 2014 #33

Big City & Campaign Realities mvymvy Nov 2014 #34

Political Realities of Big States. They would not decide every election mvymvy Nov 2014 #26

8 small western states KMOD Nov 2014 #32

Small States Support a National Popular Vote mvymvy Nov 2014 #35

Near Misses are Now Frequently Common mvymvy Nov 2014 #36

Be careful what you wish for zipplewrath Nov 2014 #21

Near Misses are Now Frequently Common mvymvy Nov 2014 #23

When Every Vote is Equal and Matters, Turnout does and will Increase mvymvy Nov 2014 #24

When and where every voter is equal, a campaign must be run everywhere mvymvy Nov 2014 #25

No zipplewrath Nov 2014 #29

When and where every voter is equal, a campaign must be run everywhere mvymvy Nov 2014 #37

Tad Deceiving zipplewrath Nov 2014 #38

One Person, One Vote, Each Equal, Each Matters Equally, Most Votes Wins mvymvy Nov 2014 #39

And this will get worse with a purely popular vote zipplewrath Nov 2014 #40

Political Reality and Experience Don't Agree mvymvy Nov 2014 #41

Again decieving zipplewrath Nov 2014 #43

I have been saying this for years AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #44