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In reply to the discussion: I hate seeing "the religion of peace" bullshit here. [View all]JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)believed that Jesus had told them about the use of violence in their lives.
According to the Gospels that became the basis for the Christian religion, Jesus chose to submit to the will of God even at his death. He did not choose to defend himself. His disciples had at least one, possibly at least two swords, and according to the Gospels, he told them not to use them.
If you are not familiar with the story of the arrest of Jesus as told in the Bible, you will find my post #119 interesting, I think.
You say that both Christianity and the Muslim religion (or Islam) grew out of tribal societies that emphasized vendetta and warfare. The interesting thing is that the pre-Constantine Christians set the vendetta and warfare aside pretty much (although there is, if I recall correctly, a story of violence in the Acts of the Apostles against members of the early Christian group who did not share what they had with the others -- I could be wrong about that story). They moved away from that culture of vendetta and warfare and became martyrs. That is why I say that Christianity was in its beginnings non-violent, pacifist.