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In reply to the discussion: I hate seeing "the religion of peace" bullshit here. [View all]JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)If they were the basis for a movement, or I should say, if they and other written texts that told stories about a mythical Jesus were the basis for a movement, then that movement is a historical fact and its texts are a part of its historical record and the quotes from it are relevant.
Whether the Bible is historically accurate or not is irrelevant.
What is relevant is what people believe and how their beliefs affect their actions and their social interactions. I sometimes wonder whether brushing my teeth really does me any good. I am told that it does, so I do it. But I do it based on belief and not based on the fact that I really understand why it might help my teeth. It may. It may not. I don't understand the science of dentistry well enough to really know. But I live my life believing that brushing my teeth is the thing to do, so I do it. It certainly feels good to me, and I teach my children to do it. I have faith in brushing my teeth. My dentist's bills sometimes shake my faith.
What we believe can be more relevant than what is true or false with regard to some thing.
On the other hand, if I believe that there is no train approaching quickly on the railroad track and I therefore stand on the railroad track with my eyes shut, but in reality there is a train on the railroad track, I may have faith, by my faith can get me killed.
The early Christians believed the stories of Jesus' crucifixion. There are aspects of the story as told in the Bible's selection of gospels that are not likely to be true considering what Roman law was at the time. (So I have been told by someone who studied that issue.) Nevertheless, the fact that centuries, many centuries, people have believed that the stories of true have engendered hatred and persecution of people who are Jewish. So, the belief, probably erroneous that "the Jews" killed Jesus has formed history in a very sad way.
That Jesus (who was himself a Jew) was a pacifist is part of the story of Jesus that Christians chose to believe. I have read an article on the art of the early Christians that suggested that their religion was a pacifist one. I can't see any other explanation for the fact that there is no evidence of violence by Christians during the early Christian era.
So myth or not, it is relevant. Sorry to disagree with you.