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dreamnightwind

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70. They could aso try being an actual news channel

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 05:08 AM

Nov 2014

We seriously need a news channel that doesn't suck. The competition isn't that tough, CNN and Fox are corporate and RW dreck, nauseating to many people.

MS-NBC has very little news coverage, it's mostly political shows. And even though several of their hosts come from the left side of the fence, there's very little discussion of anything our corporate masters don't have squarely on their agendas. No radical analysis, no alternative views of the MIC, at best they represent the corporate Democratic positions.

And that's at best. The rest of their programming is RW BS or sick prison shows.

Personally I'd love to have an actual 24x7 news channel that wasn't constantly lying to me, which is my sense of CNN and Fox. Not so much to ask for.

The CNN hosts are so phoney I can't even stand to look at them or listen to them, Fox is probably worse but I haven't watched Fox in years so other than clips I see on MS-NBC or Stewart/Colbert I have no idea what Fox is doing these days.

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MSNBC - ya wanna know why your ratings suck? [View all] jillan Nov 2014 OP

Agreed! Mike Nelson Nov 2014 #1

Well, there is Al Jazeera. It's the only one 20score Nov 2014 #22

Heartily agree! joshdawg Nov 2014 #71

Sad but true. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #75

+ E9 MrMickeysMom Nov 2014 #101

Not sure about Al Jazeera Kilgore Nov 2014 #128

That would be a shame. I Al Jazeera quite useful. And even RT, depending on the topic. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #131

Corporate Funded Prison Industry billhicks76 Nov 2014 #41

CNN maybe...... GP6971 Nov 2014 #55

not FOX. Terra Alta Nov 2014 #113

i hate that show MFM008 Nov 2014 #2

Well, there is Al Jazeera. It's the only one 20score Nov 2014 #17

Their show: "Empire" is a good watch from time to time, also! KoKo Nov 2014 #50

ever get the impression that they try to fail ? olddots Nov 2014 #3

Prison shows are stupidly cheap to make Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #9

What I would like to know is who is making money off these shows? PADemD Nov 2014 #39

Remember who owns MSNBC thecrow Nov 2014 #107

Comcast was one of the successors (along with Time Warner) of the Adelphia Cable Co., maddiemom Nov 2014 #120

I concluded long ago that it's someone's hobby ecstatic Nov 2014 #60

Freaking prison shows? Really? Wella Nov 2014 #4

meanwhile....faux never sleeps spanone Nov 2014 #5

Even on days they have news they constantly have clips from right wing programs csziggy Nov 2014 #6

That drives me insane PatSeg Nov 2014 #91

Exactly - You said it better than I could csziggy Nov 2014 #94

I finally realized that PatSeg Nov 2014 #96

Unfortunately, the prison porn gets them their Cleita Nov 2014 #7

Seriously? Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #10

Maybe that's it. It was mentioned on one of the liberal radio shows that Cleita Nov 2014 #24

That is pretty much the impression I'd gotten PatSeg Nov 2014 #92

And who exactly would determine when "they start spouting propaganda and lies." former9thward Nov 2014 #66

Ridiculous. It has nothing to do with the First Amendment. Cleita Nov 2014 #67

You didn't answer the question. Who decides? joeglow3 Nov 2014 #68

In a news channel or news radio supported with public funding, Cleita Nov 2014 #86

According to who? joeglow3 Nov 2014 #97

Of course they are all corporate outlets. Cleita Nov 2014 #103

Again, I have heard people say the same thing about Glenn Beck's station joeglow3 Nov 2014 #105

So? Cleita Nov 2014 #106

Gets back to the original question you have refused to answer joeglow3 Nov 2014 #119

The producers and editors of the news channel. Is that so hard to understand? Cleita Nov 2014 #121

So the producers decide to cut their own funding if they deem it propaganda joeglow3 Nov 2014 #122

what part of your ass did you pull that total straw man out of? Cleita Nov 2014 #123

You really need to read your own shit joeglow3 Nov 2014 #124

I didn't say anything of the sort. Nice way of cutting and pasting out of context. Cleita Nov 2014 #125

Are you fucking kidding me? joeglow3 Nov 2014 #126

What is wrong with cutting funding for not doing their job? Cleita Nov 2014 #129

I am still vetting out your idea joeglow3 Nov 2014 #130

I never said anything about shutting down stations. Cleita Nov 2014 #132

The prison channel. lpbk2713 Nov 2014 #8

Ridiculously cheap to make n/t Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #11

I hate Lockup honeylady Nov 2014 #12

Welcome to DU, honeylady! calimary Nov 2014 #44

Ain't this a Great Country? WillowTree Nov 2014 #13

Their ratings suck because they got rid of all their interesting personalities LittleBlue Nov 2014 #14

And rachel M. sometimes had interesting things to say, truedelphi Nov 2014 #28

Oh Christ, can we please have a break from the Obama-bashing ultra-left nonsense? RBInMaine Nov 2014 #33

I guess you don't live near the Gulf of Mexico. truedelphi Nov 2014 #35

I do live there, Ineeda Nov 2014 #47

Ninety percent of America's brown shrimp came from the Gulf Area. truedelphi Nov 2014 #61

Tuna are bottom feeders? packman Nov 2014 #73

I meant to say shrimp and crab, and wrote a longer remark about truedelphi Nov 2014 #133

Is it safe to swim in? whathehell Nov 2014 #72

There is no "Ultra-Left". Enthusiast Nov 2014 #76

Traditional Democrats are not "ultra-left". n/t Kermitt Gribble Nov 2014 #98

You miss a lot, elleng Nov 2014 #53

Agree, LittleBlue n/t Duval Nov 2014 #36

All weekend every weekend - prison shows. Triana Nov 2014 #15

hmm...that must be a station on the teevee. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2014 #16

It just shows the true, elitist, country club, day-off, long weekend type attitude they have. TeamPooka Nov 2014 #18

Rachel Maddow mentioned the show has high ratings.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #19

Excellent OLDMDDEM Nov 2014 #20

that crap does well in ratings JI7 Nov 2014 #21

and McDonald's sells the most burgers. But they still suck. nt TeamPooka Nov 2014 #99

2 words tooeyeten Nov 2014 #23

Pressure Relief Valve jalan48 Nov 2014 #25

Bingo! They take us right up to that line, and as soon as someone dares to put their foot on that jillan Nov 2014 #26

You and I can see where we would be if we had Phil, Keith, and truedelphi Nov 2014 #29

+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #77

Yeah, I'd rather see a test pattern than that stuff. Hoyt Nov 2014 #27

Yeah couldn't believe they had that on smh PatrynXX Nov 2014 #30

The MSNBC scheduling on weekends is frustrating Gothmog Nov 2014 #31

You forgot to add Killer joe and Bortman33 Nov 2014 #32

At least they have their news partnership agreement Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #34

100% on the mark. But just as a mental exercise.. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #37

Bring in younger hosts on the weekends...incorporate culture(music-including hip/hop)on Sat/Sun, Ken Burch Nov 2014 #42

YES! wyldwolf Nov 2014 #43

Maybe also break it down into shorter blocks to deal with attention-span differences Ken Burch Nov 2014 #49

Yeah...they really, really need to get rid of the weekend "prison porn". Ken Burch Nov 2014 #38

Don't watch any reality shows except Pawn Stars Marthe48 Nov 2014 #40

They need to get Olbermann back. davishenderson265 Nov 2014 #45

Well, Ain't That the Truth! Bette R. Daize Nov 2014 #51

Without Prison Docs, MSNBC’s 2013 Ratings Were Even Worse krawhitham Nov 2014 #46

I never did get the freaking prison reality shit greenman3610 Nov 2014 #48

MSNBC's Problems Go Deeper than Prison Documentaries saintsebastian Nov 2014 #52

I wish i could kick & rec your post. :) n/t Leopolds Ghost Nov 2014 #54

I have to ad Lawrence to your list. He is really unique. He doesn't follow the daily story line. jillan Nov 2014 #56

I Like O'Donnell's Personality saintsebastian Nov 2014 #58

Lawrence O'Donnell is great. SunSeeker Nov 2014 #88

He can play smash-mouth pundit, for certain RVN VET Nov 2014 #109

Interesting Read.... KoKo Nov 2014 #63

k/r excellent analysis nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #64

And go back to 15,000 dying each year with no coverage? SunSeeker Nov 2014 #87

Straw Man saintsebastian Nov 2014 #115

Bullshit. We didn't have the votes for a public option. SunSeeker Nov 2014 #118

And if I watch another show that talks about what republicans need to do to win in 2016 kimbutgar Nov 2014 #57

Why do they air all those prison shows? It's always struck me as polichick Nov 2014 #59

The real question is... Calista241 Nov 2014 #62

They have Lockup on for eleven thousand hours shenmue Nov 2014 #65

I once was actually a captive audience for prison shows. HeiressofBickworth Nov 2014 #69

I have suffered through PatSeg Nov 2014 #95

They could aso try being an actual news channel dreamnightwind Nov 2014 #70

Kicked and recommended! I refuse to watch prison shows. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #74

I'm with you libodem Nov 2014 #78

They® have really dumbed down TV. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #81

Seems designed to soften us all up libodem Nov 2014 #85

Absolutely true usaf-vet Nov 2014 #79

''Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one.'' ~A. J. Liebling DeSwiss Nov 2014 #80

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^ librechik Nov 2014 #83

Those 6 corporations agree that the citizens are unfit to receive accurate information. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #127

Absolutely true usaf-vet Nov 2014 #82

down to basic cable now and dumping that next week dembotoz Nov 2014 #84

I wish MSNBC would put news programming on weekends. SunSeeker Nov 2014 #89

Well, to be fair PatSeg Nov 2014 #90

Yeah, that's another thing: a celebrity dies and the coverage IS 24/7 maddiemom Nov 2014 #114

I suppose when they temporarily PatSeg Nov 2014 #117

kickareeno belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #93

Does anyone know how to send this entire thread to MSNBC? femmocrat Nov 2014 #100

They have contact information on their website. Cleita Nov 2014 #104

Next up… HUNGER GAMES! MrMickeysMom Nov 2014 #102

When they weren't in prison mode they had the sappiest coverage ever. Vinca Nov 2014 #108

They fired the guy The Wizard Nov 2014 #110

I have right wingers throw the Lockup shows at me indivisibleman Nov 2014 #111

TV News. Sparks224 Nov 2014 #112

Their ratings suck even harder without those prison shows... shaayecanaan Nov 2014 #116