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MissB

(16,344 posts)
98. School funding is not fair. Period. (Really long)
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 11:34 AM
Dec 2014

Our state has a school funding equalization mechanism. The district that I live in sees most of its property tax based educational money leave the district. That's fair but it still doesn't create equal schools.

When my oldest turned 5, I looked around at the nearby school. Our neighborhood school was a language immersion school. I think that's a fine idea but DH and I had no desire to immerse our kids in this particular language. We could send our kid to a nearby school that was inline with our values (environmental slant). Living in a large school district (at the time) meant we could fairly easily transfer within the district to any school.

But that one - environmental- was expecting 32 kindergarteners that fall. And they had no art teacher, no PE teacher, a librarian only 2 days a week and no music program. Their language instruction was via videotape. I said hell no.

Dh found us a house in a nearby small district. The district is within a certain neighborhood's boundary. My oldest had a class size of 11 for kindergarten and a year later my youngest had a class size of 17. Full time art, music, PE and foreign language teachers. Full time librarian and counselor.

My house isn't upscale. I've often described it as my high-priced hovel. Luckily dh and I are into fixer uppers, even if we have to live in a house constantly in transition (or in disrepair depending on which part of the house you are looking at.)

The average income in the district is six figures, which includes a range of really rich folks to ordinary upper-middle class folks who still rely on a paycheck. It was a stretch for us to move here, but it was the choice we made.

So we are part of the problem. Dh and I were unwilling to sacrifice our kids' education. We didn't want private schools, so we naively selected the best public school we could find in the area and found a house that we could (at the time) barely afford. We were thrilled to find parents that really cared to be involved in their kids' education. We didn't think about whether it was fair or not that we could afford a house in the neighborhood. We were just happy to move to a quieter neighborhood with tons of kids within earshot. We didn't look at the demographics closely to see that there were no kids receiving a free or reduced lunch.

This district is public, but you have to live within the boundaries, receive a transfer from another district or pay tuition. The district has been accused of being quasi-private because of this.

Our school makes up the difference between what the state provides as a fair funding number (all tax monies collected, divided by number of students in state etc) by receiving donations from a foundation. The foundation is private, and families are encouraged to donate annually. The amount of the requested donation is not insignificant.

But what we get for that is: small class sizes. Nearly 100% of high school teachers with master degrees. Excellent test scores. A great college prep high school with a close to 100% graduation rate.

How do we make that fair for other students in the state? I truly don't know the answer (short of pulling a bunch of money from the military-industrial complex.) All kids deserve a fine education. Just like all kids deserve a safe neighborhood to live in, a reliable roof over their heads, and enough food to eat. Until we hit those marks as a society, folks with the means to do so will find a way to provide the best education they can for their kids.

All that being said, I'm utterly appalled by the actions of the district in the article. We've had some kids in the district that were kids of live-in help. I saw first hand how the district's schools made it as easy as possible for those kids to attend the schools with as little hassle as possible.

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SHAMEFULLY elitists. Ass****s. I hope they lose based on discrimination that's BlueCaliDem Dec 2014 #1
Any child in America... meaculpa2011 Dec 2014 #2
and when did this start NOT being true??? a kennedy Dec 2014 #17
Decades ago. cui bono Dec 2014 #67
Since forever. Out-of-district = pays tuition. WinkyDink Dec 2014 #99
This message was self-deleted by its author badtoworse Dec 2014 #3
Whether one pays taxes has NEVER been the factor that decides which schools KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #4
that's outrageous - for one thing where a parent pays taxes has never been accepted as the basis Douglas Carpenter Dec 2014 #5
I pay those taxes and I never HAD children.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #53
She lives in Orinda with her mother M-F and visits her relatives in Bay Point on the weekend. Gormy Cuss Dec 2014 #6
Wrong! She belongs there if she lives there. kcr Dec 2014 #9
Property taxes are being paid by the owner of the residence she is living in. Downwinder Dec 2014 #11
This TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2014 #47
I am sure she pays the local sales tax and her Dustlawyer Dec 2014 #14
So anyone who rents an apartment nichomachus Dec 2014 #18
Public schools are for the children of white, landowning, freemen, as the founders intended. cheapdate Dec 2014 #20
The rent one pays supposedly covers the upaloopa Dec 2014 #27
Homeless children are entitled to education in the public schools as well kcr Dec 2014 #59
Residency is the requirement, not tax status. WinkyDink Dec 2014 #100
Vivian mom's employers need to let her get mail there NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #7
Orinda...a town full of heartless elitist scumbags. abelenkpe Dec 2014 #8
this is normal now olddots Dec 2014 #10
And I bet these greedy asshats fill up the pews on Sunday. Vinca Dec 2014 #12
from Forbes magazine: America's Friendliest Towns - Orinda, CA came in No.2 (I'm serious) Douglas Carpenter Dec 2014 #13
Friendly only if adieu Dec 2014 #15
Significantly blue, too. 66% voted for Obama in 2012 hughee99 Dec 2014 #22
having once lived on the California coast for 9 years - There are a lot of champagne liberals and Douglas Carpenter Dec 2014 #29
The town in question is right next to Berkeley, isn't it? n/t hughee99 Dec 2014 #35
pretty close - Douglas Carpenter Dec 2014 #37
Right over the East Bay hills KamaAina Dec 2014 #42
San Francisco is blue and they are always passing anti homeless things JI7 Dec 2014 #55
Sometimes blue places are the most NIMBY alarimer Dec 2014 #56
Yep kcr Dec 2014 #60
"Love Me, Love Me, Love Me, I'm a Liberal" jkd Dec 2014 #66
Friendly towards rich white people. redstatebluegirl Dec 2014 #52
typical amerikan response heaven05 Dec 2014 #16
Maybe... Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #19
Not funny. Brigid Dec 2014 #24
The issue has been resolved, at least for now. badtoworse Dec 2014 #21
it does appear that that the school district has backed down under pressure but only Douglas Carpenter Dec 2014 #32
What REALLY pisses me off about this... SpankMe Dec 2014 #23
There are liberal elitists, just as conservatard ones. roamer65 Dec 2014 #63
No worries Mr Dixon Dec 2014 #25
Yes, and while many liberals wont fall into this, many have and will. NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #101
Another opinion... BrainDrain Dec 2014 #26
Uh, oh! Boy, are you gonna get it! n/t SpankMe Dec 2014 #28
what does that have to do with this situation of a little girl going to the public school in the Douglas Carpenter Dec 2014 #30
cause... BrainDrain Dec 2014 #31
she lives in the district. she goes to school in the district Douglas Carpenter Dec 2014 #33
It is her legal residence tammywammy Dec 2014 #34
ahhh yes... BrainDrain Dec 2014 #74
After six years of "membership" TBF Dec 2014 #83
Please... BrainDrain Dec 2014 #87
She spends most of the week there. alarimer Dec 2014 #58
then change it.... BrainDrain Dec 2014 #73
Is it a matter of how BOLD you make the writing? kcr Dec 2014 #61
No.. BrainDrain Dec 2014 #75
What IS the DISTINCTION? kcr Dec 2014 #80
The DISTINCTION is BrainDrain Dec 2014 #86
Wait a minute. Which is it? kcr Dec 2014 #89
Ok lets re-read what I wrote. BrainDrain Dec 2014 #92
In the case of the OP, they live there. kcr Dec 2014 #93
Nice try... BrainDrain Dec 2014 #102
I don't need a crystal ball. I read your posts n/t kcr Dec 2014 #104
"then I want to send my kid to Yale and only have to pay community college prices." KamaAina Dec 2014 #44
Tell ya what.. BrainDrain Dec 2014 #76
FUIGM right? BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #50
Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #77
This is a good example of why schools should not be funded by property taxes. alarimer Dec 2014 #57
+100. nt whathehell Dec 2014 #64
Thread win dreamnightwind Dec 2014 #65
Once again, CA property taxes are NOT frozen Retrograde Dec 2014 #106
Hmmmmm BrainDrain Dec 2014 #78
You are not only dense, laundry_queen Dec 2014 #82
That graphic illustrates the perfect response kcr Dec 2014 #84
Really.. BrainDrain Dec 2014 #88
I'm certain you can figure it out. nt laundry_queen Dec 2014 #91
What you are saying is utterly morally depraved. We Americans don't think like you and never will Douglas Carpenter Dec 2014 #71
First off.. BrainDrain Dec 2014 #81
The Che avatar is a nice touch - TBF Dec 2014 #85
I have BrainDrain Dec 2014 #90
that's right, Che would never have permitted the daughter of a poor hispanic nanny to attend the Douglas Carpenter Dec 2014 #95
Right, all that and yet you can't find it in your TBF Dec 2014 #96
What a bunch of bullshit. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2014 #103
The RULES here are that she's a resident even though her mother doesn't pay rent. Gormy Cuss Dec 2014 #94
But it IS reality that many people can't afford to move to the districts of the best state schools! LeftishBrit Dec 2014 #107
Why do YOU PEOPLE always assume you are the only hard workers? raging moderate Dec 2014 #108
What kind of human garbage sends a PI after a 7-year-old to get her thrown out of school? True Blue Door Dec 2014 #36
and what kind of "person" would be an aplogist for something like that Douglas Carpenter Dec 2014 #38
Pack of Mitt Romney homunculi, the lot of them. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #39
I agree, despite most of them not being Romney voters. n/t hughee99 Dec 2014 #41
The specific people responsible for this probably are. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #46
I'd find it hard to believe that a city that voted 66% for Obama hughee99 Dec 2014 #48
people don't want to admit there are liberals that belong to the 1% and that don't like liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #49
it's not hard to believe, most of these people are pro environment, not religious , support public JI7 Dec 2014 #70
I know the type, you can find a good bit of this in MA as well. n/t hughee99 Dec 2014 #97
I know this town and sadly this doesn't surprise me at all. Arugula Latte Dec 2014 #40
Me neither BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #51
Fucking Jerks.. In Colorado your kid can go to any public school as long as there is room.. SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #43
That's sort of the neighborhood-schools-as-charters model. It has pluses and minuses Recursion Dec 2014 #72
disgraceful. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #45
an example of not all Democrats being liberals, they are heavily blue area JI7 Dec 2014 #54
I read that a mother was jailed for sending her child to live with the grandparents. raging moderate Dec 2014 #62
K&R woo me with science Dec 2014 #68
thanks Douglas Carpenter Dec 2014 #69
Disgusting! What do you say to the child? B Calm Dec 2014 #79
School funding is not fair. Period. (Really long) MissB Dec 2014 #98
This line alone makes your post TBF Dec 2014 #105
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