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2banon

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65. Who are you calling "Whiners and Complainers" ?

Thu Dec 4, 2014, 04:11 PM

Dec 2014

Has it ever occurred to you that evolution of thought just might be in play?

That it has become more and more apparent that traditional causes and principles the party used to stand and fight for are given some lip service to at times when pressed or during campaigns, but ignored or dismissed as "too leftist" when the opportunity to take action is at hand?

That issues we championed or fought against during Bush/Cheney years weren't just about the fact that rethugs were in power, but were based on PRINCIPLES we hold dear and value, regardless?

That it has become obvious with every passing year that toting the party line no matter how obviously corrupt it is no longer considered acceptable, desirable, intelligent or tolerable?

You might describe resulting discussions as whining and complaining, but I'd call it critical thinking and ATTEMPT to muddle our way towards some sort of unifying force to reject corruption and reclaim our democracy.. IF the party sees the way clear toward that end, great!

But if not... all bets are off. you can keep thinking that's nothing more than "whining and complaining" but you would be wrong.

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To your point Scuba, I think the use of "ignore" and "trash thread" might impact "participation" ? 2banon Dec 2014 #62

Ya Know... It's Funny... Although You And I Disagree On Many Things, I've Always Valued Your Posts WillyT Dec 2014 #34

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Who are you calling "Whiners and Complainers" ? 2banon Dec 2014 #65

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Loved her posts during "dumbya's" reign of tyranny. 2banon Dec 2014 #63

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I clearly stated ... NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #44

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I don't know your viewpoints fadedrose Dec 2014 #53

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And I can think of at least a few dozen Republians ... NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #90

A few dozen? Nance you are being very, very generous. Rex Dec 2014 #91

Yes, I was being overly generous ... NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #97

Getting unfocused on the main cause of a party or losing to apathy can be stopped. Rex Dec 2014 #98

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