Anyone who claims Obama called the torturers "patriots"...

[MisterP]

142. I suppose that's the real problem of "echo chambers": not that they radicalize people (they do)

but that they leave them thinking that their decades-old cliches are some new revelation that'll send everyone else sprawling on the floor; the conservadems have insisted that "liburl intransigence" is what sank the party in 1972, and ever since then they've used money and administrative posts to fight to move the party to the right, really getting the ball rolling with the 1988 DLC and the 1994 swing right (Clinton had campaigned as a liberal)

this happens in any tiny faction that does nothing but read its own works (Discovery Institute, Cato Institute) or of one single person (the "Orwellian" Jehovah's Witnesses, Kersey Graves, al Qaeda, flat-earth colonies): they think nothing has changed since Alan Cranston or Alexander Hislop or Washington Irving or whoever, that no new analysis could ever improve on what's already been accepted

even their grammar ability's been warped by their love and isolation: they not only can't see that he was talking about torture and torturers, they think the rest of us are just going with the crowd, just citing each other because we're blinded by outrage, and need an OP to correct our collective ability to parse sentences