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Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 10:16 AM Dec 2014

Of course most of the people who tortured for the CIA are patriots. So what? [View all]

Patriot is a word with a meaning.

It does not mean "mensch" or "decent bloke", it means someone with a particular set of ideological views and emotional attachments to their country.

Having those views or not has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not it is OK to torture people, any more than being a patriot makes it OK to rob banks.

I am absolutely certain that the vast majority of CIA operatives (and a significant number of bank robbers), including those who have tortured people, are patriots.

It is not obvious to me either why Obama offered that as an implicit defence of them, or why so many people think that it is not true.

The logical response is "Yes, they are indeed patriots. So what?"

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