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Man from Pickens

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Tue Dec 16, 2014, 06:11 PM Dec 2014

Yes, We Did Execute Japanese Soldiers for Waterboarding American POWs [View all]

It stuns me that we are still having a debate, as a country, over whether or not what the Bush Administration did to detainees in the war on terror was actually torture. I would hope that this helps settle things. The fact-checking outfit called PolitiFact confirms that a McCain statement from 2007, dredged up recently by Paul Begala, is accurate:

"I forgot to mention last night that following World War II war crime trials were convened. The Japanese were tried and convicted and hung for war crimes committed against American POWs. Among those charges for which they were convicted was waterboarding," [McCain] told reporters at a campaign event.


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You can argue that the techniques used by Americans on detainees were necessary and, because of the OLC memos, legal. I would disagree with you, but you could plausibly make that argument. What you cannot do any longer is pretend that those techniques do not meet the definition of torture that America has used in the past.


http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2009/04/yes-we-did-execute-japanese-soldiers-waterboarding-american-pows

There you have it. "Waterboarding" was such a despicable act as to classify it as a war crime deserving execution. Anyone who says it's not torture is an ignoramus at best, with the other end of the scale being "genuine war criminal".
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i hear cheney arguing it's not torture. this question was settled long, long ago. spanone Dec 2014 #1
Corporate media hacks ignore the history of waterboarding. gordianot Dec 2014 #2
January 21, 1968: US Soldier Convicted of Waterboarding North Vietnamese Prisoner Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #3
Interesting Egnever Dec 2014 #7
Of course we did. The pretense on this subject is wicked and highly delusional. TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #4
The U.S. used waterboarding in Vietnam. former9thward Dec 2014 #5
and he was convicted… nt. Raine1967 Dec 2014 #20
No, he was court marshaled. former9thward Dec 2014 #24
For torture in Vietnam, it's worth studying the "Vietnam Project" and Stan Sheinbaum... cascadiance Dec 2014 #23
You will have to excuse me if I don't take Mcinsane as an expert on American history. Egnever Dec 2014 #6
"Mcinsane" knows more about torture ... bvar22 Dec 2014 #8
True. former9thward Dec 2014 #13
That doesn't mean he knows our history. Egnever Dec 2014 #21
I was told by a eyewitness that we executed hundreds WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2014 #9
I was told by my uncle.The soldiers were told to lose them. easychoice Dec 2014 #18
Yeah but that was different mindwalker_i Dec 2014 #10
The comments for that piece at MotherJones are eye-popping. n/t countryjake Dec 2014 #11
Japanese Methods of Prisoner of War Interrogation Octafish Dec 2014 #12
Kick and Rec! zappaman Dec 2014 #14
I've heard jokes about 'The Chinese Water Torture'. trof Dec 2014 #15
But that was so 1948 - SARCASM ashling Dec 2014 #16
The redefining of "torture" by Bushco was absolutely Orwellian. annominous Dec 2014 #17
archaic banter about draconian methods laserhaas Dec 2014 #19
Not exactly because of waterboarding... bobclark86 Dec 2014 #22
We also won the war AnalystInParadise Dec 2014 #25
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