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71. Context free sophistry

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 08:14 AM

Feb 2015

You are right. Its a fools game to try and run the constant stream of rhetorical questions to ground. Its an endless game of whack a mole. The debate needs to be anchored to the dead weight of poverty, in a miasma of fear that never dissipates, where wicked death soils all human relationships...over decades until it becomes the culture. Then tell me who traded in this directly, and who benefitted in their comfortable suburbs at a smug distance. Then we can talk about how evil begets evil and how social systems and chaos theory assure us that one day the soft headed guy in the suburb is going to watch some evil shit visited upon his people...and he will not grasp how he is not the victim, but the root cause of the worlds misery. They aren't real sophists, they actually believe they are arguing in good faith.

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Chris Hedges: The Terror We Give Is the Terror We Get [View all] marmar Feb 2015 OP

, blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #1

Kick & Rec for the truth he speaks peacebird Feb 2015 #2

Simple fact that many want to ignore..... daleanime Feb 2015 #3

du rec. xchrom Feb 2015 #4

K&R DeSwiss Feb 2015 #5

Funny how neither ISIS nor Boko Haram claim that. randome Feb 2015 #6

Hedges is desperate to separate religion from this barbarism, RadiationTherapy Feb 2015 #7

They do. They even use the same orange jumpsuits for their detainees. CJCRANE Feb 2015 #10

So that's why they behead Japanese citizens and butcher Islamic schoolgirls. Right. Okay. randome Feb 2015 #20

Yes, it's part of it. They tell their followers to look at the atrocities committed in the name of CJCRANE Feb 2015 #28

"We hate America! Let's kill our own people!" randome Feb 2015 #37

I'm not ascribing motives to them. This is what they say on their social media sites. CJCRANE Feb 2015 #44

But you believe them? Do you believe they kill Islamic children to get back at the U.S.? randome Feb 2015 #49

This was before it was called ISIS in the western MSM. CJCRANE Feb 2015 #60

Do you also disagree that terror serves those who profit both financially and emotionally from war? Fumesucker Feb 2015 #11

Every action provokes a reaction. randome Feb 2015 #15

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter Fumesucker Feb 2015 #17

Good posts. Terror is a tool to supress the masses. Currently we are talking about the terror rhett o rick Feb 2015 #25

+100. and do well enough in life to send their kids to the white house. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #57

Claim what? Your unclear pronoun antecedent ("that") interferes with whatever KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #40

Almost as funny as the half-wits who pretend to know what they have or have not claimed... LanternWaste Feb 2015 #68

Exactly ann--- Feb 2015 #8

They are two sides of the same coin. nt CJCRANE Feb 2015 #9

I'm not sure, because if we stopped everything we are doing treestar Feb 2015 #12

Who did it exactly? CJCRANE Feb 2015 #14

Under Clinton, chervilant Feb 2015 #18

And one of the first things bu$h did after his inauguration Art_from_Ark Feb 2015 #73

True, Bush continued the prevailing policy chervilant Feb 2015 #74

"We weren't at war over there until 911. They did do that." 90-percent Feb 2015 #19

The reason we didn't invade Saudi Arabia... ReRe Feb 2015 #29

I don't see that I supported the invation of Iraq at all treestar Feb 2015 #30

depends on who 'they' and 'their' funders are, doesn't it? ND-Dem Feb 2015 #58

16 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi, funded by Saudi's. We went to war wit the wrong people, IMHO. grahamhgreen Feb 2015 #22

I doubt that Mr. Hedges will tell you that if one bully stops bullying the others will also. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #26

So we absord terrorist attacks that happen treestar Feb 2015 #31

No one suggested we not do anything. But for example rhett o rick Feb 2015 #35

Then what could we have done after 911 treestar Feb 2015 #36

I will not respond to your questioning until you provide your point of view. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #41

So there is nothing. treestar Feb 2015 #43

LOL. Just because you leave off the question mark doesn't make it a statement. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #56

What would have been a valid response to 911? treestar Feb 2015 #66

Context free sophistry Fairgo Feb 2015 #71

Find out the truth first. CJCRANE Feb 2015 #61

Haven't you learned anything here? We can't handle the truth. Some old actor tried to rhett o rick Feb 2015 #75

You mean when we went to destroy a country that had nothing to do with 9/11? sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #32

Al Qaeda sent 4 airplanes and killed everyone on them and treestar Feb 2015 #34

Before taking on your questions which you seem to use to advance your argument rhett o rick Feb 2015 #38

Why do I have to answer first? treestar Feb 2015 #45

Some times posters will use continual questioning to try to get rhett o rick Feb 2015 #51

This is easier than actually presenting an opposing argument. = +100 ND-Dem Feb 2015 #59

Not surprised. Cutting things down is easier than trying to find a solution. treestar Feb 2015 #67

Biggest probably needs to be qualified. Certainly not in all history but since WW II rhett o rick Feb 2015 #70

What did Iraq have to do with that?? Hussein HATED Al Queda and there was no AQ in Iraq. sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #42

Why does Saudi Arabia deserve to be attacked treestar Feb 2015 #46

Why did Iraq deserve to be attacked? sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #48

I never supported Iraq at any minute treestar Feb 2015 #50

I have expressed my opinion on how to deal with terrorists for over TEN YEARS NOW. So stop with sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #54

Iraq had nothing to do with 911 treestar Feb 2015 #64

How did attacking Iraq get back at Al Qaeda? nt CJCRANE Feb 2015 #62

It did not and I never said it did. treestar Feb 2015 #65

Investigate. Find the facts. CJCRANE Feb 2015 #69

We should just do something, whatever, cuz something has to be done whatchamacallit Feb 2015 #81

Um... Nothing is better than the WRONG thing whatchamacallit Feb 2015 #80

It is that simple malaise Feb 2015 #13

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Feb 2015 #16

K&R. Well said. Overseas Feb 2015 #21

This is all too true. Sadly, the US provokes, promotes, and participates in terrorism. Chemisse Feb 2015 #23

Each bomb we drop is a terror seed. Scuba Feb 2015 #24

We're very good at raising large crops Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #77

Hey, ya can't have a War on Terror if you don't have terrorists. Scuba Feb 2015 #78

Once again Mr. Hedges is on the money. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #27

Our country is way past due JEB Feb 2015 #33

In my opinion to do what you suggest will take extreme action. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #39

You pretty well sum up my thoughts JEB Feb 2015 #47

I support the effort to get a progressive in the Presidency but not naive enough rhett o rick Feb 2015 #52

At 63 years, I'm still with you , but JEB Feb 2015 #55

How would Americans respond if a foreign power invaded without cause? pa28 Feb 2015 #53

Heard the RWers trying to exuse Russian military incursions into Ukraine? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #79

A pollyanna hope that is without basis. What do you think would predict and what you would hope are TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #82

k and r for this sad truth. niyad Feb 2015 #63

ignore the plaints of the peaceful, reap the atrocities of the violent. NuttyFluffers Feb 2015 #72

Or, more simply if more tritely, violence begets violence. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #76