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Wounded Bear

(58,916 posts)
44. I get where you're going...
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 10:21 AM
Feb 2015

But I don't think that is all we need. The Greeks and Romans had female deities and they were pretty violent. Granted, the female gods were often ranked inferior to the male ones in the hierarchy, but still.

It's not just that our world is run by the 'patriarchy.' After all, the system as it is hurts men, too. Somehow, the PTB gets to distort the message from 'we want women and minorities, et al, to receive equal treatment' to 'they want special treatment.'

Having a woman president would do a lot to alter perceptions of some, but there is the problem that women of power have too often been forced to work their way through a system that destroys the positive traits of their femininity. You can see that in the female Republicans that have survived the recent purge of moderates from their party. Most of the female republicans out there now would be a disaster as President, because they have become too 'Republican' in the modern sense, which seems to carry all of the worst traits of the masculine/authoritative mindset. There was a time when Republican women might have helped, but the ones out there now are, in many ways, worse then their male counterparts.

Honestly, Hillary isn't my personal choice, because of her corporate/DLC ties, but she'd be better than any Republican alternative, male or female IMHO.

Women and Girls. This! [View all] sheshe2 Feb 2015 OP
BINGO! n/t Triana Feb 2015 #1
Yup! sheshe2 Feb 2015 #25
SIGH ... (nt) sunnystarr Feb 2015 #2
Kick & highly recommended. William769 Feb 2015 #3
I know that, William. sheshe2 Feb 2015 #5
Agreed. William769 Feb 2015 #6
You are not hijacking my thread in the least, William. sheshe2 Feb 2015 #7
Please elaborate quakerboy Feb 2015 #13
+100 ND-Dem Feb 2015 #15
My response to the poster you +100 sheshe2 Feb 2015 #26
Thanks sheshe2. I was going to research some WhiteTara Feb 2015 #47
You are a man correct? I am a woman and I get it..... sheshe2 Feb 2015 #20
though i'm not the person you quote, my take on clinton's record is similar, and your post ND-Dem Feb 2015 #29
Planned parenthood is pitiful stuff to you!!!!! sheshe2 Feb 2015 #31
I stand by what I said. And what I said was not "segregation is over, crimes against women ND-Dem Feb 2015 #32
Ummmmm~ sheshe2 Feb 2015 #33
Yes, really. That passage doesn't say any of those things, not even by implication. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #35
K~ sheshe2 Feb 2015 #36
sorry for assuming you knew the legislation and the context of 'ending segregation'. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #37
Hey ND sheshe2 Feb 2015 #39
Spot on, sheshe Hekate Feb 2015 #72
I do need to know more quakerboy Feb 2015 #70
When Hillary Rodham was a young lawyer, her specialty was children's rights (and women's). ... Hekate Feb 2015 #71
That sounds pretty cool. quakerboy Feb 2015 #78
It's been a decades long career that has led to various places. Remember the series West Wing? Hekate Feb 2015 #79
Agreed. But it won't be admitted, no more than the skin color of *that man* in the White House.. freshwest Feb 2015 #51
Hillary ain't perfect, that's true, but..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2015 #63
A woman in the White House and a maybe even a First Husband ... either one works for me. libdem4life Feb 2015 #4
the first hispanic president is liable to be a bush. jeb's son. be careful what you wish for. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #17
Effing dynasties. nt F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #23
It will be a Castro~ sheshe2 Feb 2015 #28
it's weird, but there's a resemblance. separated at birth? ND-Dem Feb 2015 #30
Is one of those "they all look alike to me" posts? JTFrog Feb 2015 #92
Who knows...but I'd say that Castro will be better placed...whether Jeb is in or not. He's the real libdem4life Feb 2015 #52
K&R demigoddess Feb 2015 #8
Or we could do away with childish things MattBaggins Feb 2015 #27
I get where you're going... Wounded Bear Feb 2015 #44
Well said marions ghost Feb 2015 #50
And who anointed these "female deities"? erronis Feb 2015 #66
A lot of history gets suppressed and forgotten over time. The early Christian church... Hekate Feb 2015 #74
I won't vote for any woman for Pres that "thinks like a man." Ilsa Feb 2015 #68
Sarah Palin thinks like a nitwit who wiggles her ass to get attention. Hardly a fair comparison... Hekate Feb 2015 #76
Hate to burst your bubble, but the Dark Ones are pretty scary. Kali, for example. Hekate Feb 2015 #73
K & R SunSeeker Feb 2015 #9
Recommend but with sadness Ramses Feb 2015 #10
Thank you for your honesty Ramses. sheshe2 Feb 2015 #11
I respect that Ramses Feb 2015 #12
I did not know you felt that way. William769 Feb 2015 #14
She is an advocate for women, that puts her front and forward with me. I have posted about that. sheshe2 Feb 2015 #18
better than thomas jefferson? better than john quincy adams? ND-Dem Feb 2015 #34
Others may know specifics, but it was clear she earned the respect of world leaders and was a libdem4life Feb 2015 #54
the poster claimed HC was the best secretary of state ever. it's a big claim. what made her ND-Dem Feb 2015 #55
Wasn't around for John Adams, and Kerry is good, too. Maybe it's just that she libdem4life Feb 2015 #56
This is how I feel and said to a poster above William. sheshe2 Feb 2015 #21
+1 nt F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #24
Bravo! McCamy Taylor Feb 2015 #16
"From the birth of the Church, out of the womb of Fear and the fatherhood of Ignorance AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #19
K&R! smirkymonkey Feb 2015 #22
K&R! betsuni Feb 2015 #38
So much this... Skidmore Feb 2015 #40
Excellent thread.. trumad Feb 2015 #41
Thanks... sheshe2 Feb 2015 #42
God is unisex marions ghost Feb 2015 #43
It's not healthy for about 99% of the men, either. Wounded Bear Feb 2015 #45
True marions ghost Feb 2015 #49
Hey, look! It's God! chrisa Feb 2015 #46
Ahem...."In his own image".... PassingFair Feb 2015 #53
A Sad Truth charles d Feb 2015 #48
Women and girls ALWAYS considered last? Really? davidn3600 Feb 2015 #57
The patriarchy sucks for everybody. nt cyberswede Feb 2015 #58
Stipulating a zero-sum game, malthaussen Feb 2015 #59
Because yeah, none of those other religions exist! kjones Feb 2015 #60
Indeed... EX500rider Feb 2015 #61
Thanks for this Hekate Feb 2015 #75
I love Tara Tsiyu Feb 2015 #82
We are each our own supreme being, and are all infinitely respectworthy. DesertDiamond Feb 2015 #62
kick Liberal_in_LA Feb 2015 #64
rec #100. :) BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2015 #65
I believe the big three Abrahamaic monotheisms were made up with the intention of crushing women Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #67
Women actually hold the power of creation inside their bodies, grahamhgreen Feb 2015 #69
The Universe is a Mother, you betcha Hekate Feb 2015 #77
Then realizing there is no God will have added benefits Albertoo Feb 2015 #80
That's what finally didn't make sense to me Tsiyu Feb 2015 #81
How do we know God has been misrepresented? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #83
Until we see the dick pics, sexing God is just a political act. n/t Orsino Feb 2015 #84
"Until we see the dick pics" Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #85
Is the sex of the quote's author in question? n/t Orsino Feb 2015 #86
lol Tsiyu Feb 2015 #87
Heh. n/t Orsino Feb 2015 #88
You know what I meant. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #89
No, I don't. Orsino Feb 2015 #90
The author of the quote wrote a book, with attending site, called, "The Girl God." Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #91
Ah, I see. Orsino Feb 2015 #93
"I approve of that much." Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #94
Because a gendered view of the divine that just so happens to match male privilege... Orsino Feb 2015 #95
"Undermining that state of affairs sounds very healthy" Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #96
Doesn't seem to apply to the author of the quote. n/t Orsino Feb 2015 #97
"The Girl God" seems to be making an affirmative statement. According to the quote in the OP Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #98
The title "The Girl God" makes no such statement. Orsino Feb 2015 #99
From the website -- Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #100
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