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In reply to the discussion: Hillary has more than 200 economic advisors. Why doesn't Warren? [View all]SheilaT
(23,156 posts)So I leave them open to conjecture or establishment.
I will still say that people here just do not understand how hated she is outside a very small Democratic establishment. Outside a particular Democratic circle (which sort of includes DU) she is not that widely admired. There is a very large amount of name recognition, which shows up in recent polls But name recognition is not at all the same as approval. And that's the huge problem we face.
Hillary Clinton has huge name recognition. There is no doubt about that. But actual genuine approval? I think that's much less. Out there in what we might kindly call The Great Unwashed there seems to be huge enthusiasm for her. But that's because those people are actually what we can kindly call low information voters. I recently had a conversation with my sister and her grown daughter, and they both expressed huge enthusiasm for Hillary. It was scary to me, because I did not have the time to educate them, to try to make them see that Hillary is not the best possible candidate. My sister had been an enthusiastic Hillary supporter in 2008, and we had a very divisive conversation that year. She seemed to think that it was perfectly okay that Hillary's campaign continued far beyond what I saw as reasonable, well beyond the point when it was clear she could not possibly win the nomination. I don't think she actually knew the tern PUMA, but she was clearly one of those.
Now, nearly eight years later, she still sighs wistfully for a Hillary Clinton. She doesn't think at all about what might have changed in the years since, she doesn't care at all that Hillary's advisers hark back some 25 years to the Bill Clinton Presidency. All she knows is that a woman might become President
And she's not alone. Many good Democrats are just like my sister. Some of them feel cheated that Hillary didn't get the nomination in 2008,, and they're determined it won't happen again this time. And therein lies the problem. Hillary Clinton is NOT the candidate for 2016 for very many reasons. First off, she is a candidate of the past and does not bring a single new idea to the table.
She's also old. I'm sorry but she looks old and behaves old. Elizabeth Warren is only a year or so younger, but she looks and acts like someone a decade or more younger.
Hillary brings NOTHING new to the table. No new ideas. Definitely no new people. Why in the world would we be considering her? A Democratic Party that nominates her is stuck in the past, and nothing can gloss over that.
And that is why I'm so terrified of the Hillary is Wonderful and she will be the Perfect Candidate faction. They are wrong. Pure and simple. They are wrong, and the truly terrifying thing is that they may not understand it until they lose the 2016 election, and even then they won't get it but will blame it on outside forces.
I feel as if I'm crying out in the wilderness, and no one will understand until it's far too late.