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JonLP24

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91. Allison Grimes received 40% of the vote from Independents

Sun Feb 22, 2015, 03:19 AM

Feb 2015

Though those registered Independent could vary widely and not necessarily mean "in the middle". A majority said she was "too liberal" over the voters claim that McConnell was "too conservative".

OK Found it. Grimes received 52% of the vote from "Moderates".

Regarding your claim she received just 8% of the vote from Republican women.

http://www.cnn.com/election/2014/results/state/KY/senate#exit-polls

The vast majority of those who did vote for her were African-American 90%, Liberal 81%, & poor (under $30,000) 53% which the bulk (majority of the vote) all in Louisville & parts around it.

One thing that link doesn't mention is she got hammered in coal counties. The 8 counties where Mitch McConnell improved on from his last election were all coal counties. Harlan County voted Republican the first time in 50 years (they still voted D in local state races). All that distancing didn't pay off.

On edit - I'm not sure where my in over 50 years claim came from. Maybe Mondale carrying the county threw me off. McConnell improved from 54% in 2008 to 72% in 2012

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2014-11-05/mitch-mcconnells-win-by-the-numbers

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Hillary supporters. How come the "disaffected Republican women" didn't elect Grimes, Davis and Nunn? [View all] betterdemsonly Feb 2015 OP

$$$$$$ JaneyVee Feb 2015 #1

That is exactly what I was going to say. Evergreen Emerald Feb 2015 #2

98% of candidates with most $$$ won 2014, plus... JaneyVee Feb 2015 #6

Not particularly a Hillary supporter. But there have been plenty of females in Congress/Guvs whatthehey Feb 2015 #3

Sounds like we are answering some question that I did not ask. n/t betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #5

So you weren't implying that Hillary couldn't do better than them after all? whatthehey Feb 2015 #18

Because those states are as red as they come, in case you were not aware. Why do you believe there still_one Feb 2015 #4

I don't believe many republcan women will vote democratic betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #8

I must have missed something. Is she running for something? onehandle Feb 2015 #7

So you are going to win the tepid support of women who also care about ows issues. betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #11

Warren certainly didn't "appeal to women" who could have elected Grimes. It's KY ferchrissakes. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2015 #96

Hell my DEEP blue state didn't elect a Democratic governor this year, riddle me that. Agschmid Feb 2015 #9

Aaah~ sheshe2 Feb 2015 #30

Yup... Agschmid Feb 2015 #31

I was confused the day after Coakley won the primary, not the day after the election. merrily Feb 2015 #53

5 of MA's past 6 governors have been R's Recursion Feb 2015 #100

Clinton doesn't attract anyone who is disaffected. She alienates nearly everyone disaffected. (nt) w4rma Feb 2015 #10

Not sure that is true; Hillary does attract Wall Streeters disaffected by policies advocated by Elizabeth Warren. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #19

lol n/t betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #21

Perhaps starting with 36% voting turnout. It is pathetic to see non voters, WTH are they thinking? Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #12

I don't consider myself a "Hillary supporter" but they lost due to crappy campaigns and states. herding cats Feb 2015 #13

If appealing to those voters causes bad campaigns that why is Hillary doing it? n/t betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #14

That's your opinion. herding cats Feb 2015 #16

What a sexist remark!!!! You're saying "Oh well--one woman is as good as the next!" MADem Feb 2015 #15

strawman. Specifying that these women are all centrist and neoliberal is hardly arguing that these betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #17

Strawman, my left foot~! You are comparing three relatively new politicians to a highly MADem Feb 2015 #22

No they are not all interchangable. Liz is better than all four of em n/t betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #39

OK Kanye... LuvLoogie Feb 2015 #107

That is insane by the way. Your trashcanned. betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #41

I characterized your comments, you respond by characterizing me as "paranoid." There's nothing MADem Feb 2015 #46

Post removed Post removed Feb 2015 #48

Look who's talking. nt MADem Feb 2015 #50

some serious faulty logic going on here. hillary and winning over disaffected republican women has msongs Feb 2015 #20

+1,000! nt MADem Feb 2015 #23

I don't think Hillary will win Kentucky, Texas, or Georgia. Nor would any other Dem. DanTex Feb 2015 #24

Not lately anyway... Agschmid Feb 2015 #33

The truth is that those candidates generally got fewer women votes than the Republicans. Savannahmann Feb 2015 #25

Here's the real problem, that the Hillary supporters are blind to: SheilaT Feb 2015 #26

So those people who viscerally hate Hillary Clinton, will vote for a Socialist like Bernie Sanders? brooklynite Feb 2015 #28

No but many dissaffected liberals will particularly in Western States. betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #35

I am not about to predict who anyone else will vote for. SheilaT Feb 2015 #86

And yet she's leading every Republican in head-to-head polling. DanTex Feb 2015 #32

Only through name recognition and because they don't pay attention to her views n/t betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #36

Not so sure it can be written off so easily. DanTex Feb 2015 #40

How is this not following the same pattern of 2008 only with no opposition? betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #45

Not sure what you mean, but 2008 turned out pretty well. DanTex Feb 2015 #52

It didn't turn out well for Hillary betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #54

It turned out well for Dems, is my point. Maybe she'll lose to another Obama this time around, DanTex Feb 2015 #55

She is forced on Democrats if she is the only candidate allowed to run in the Democratic primary n/t betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #57

Of course other candidates will be allowed to run. Who has ever suggested otherwise? DanTex Feb 2015 #59

You act as if the donors and the establishment can't discourage other candidates. betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #61

See the support for Warren? Agschmid Feb 2015 #68

I agree they have a moral responsibility betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #74

I don't buy it. Agschmid Feb 2015 #75

So what do you think their motivation is? n/t betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #77

Their motivation *not* to run? Agschmid Feb 2015 #78

yes? n/t betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #80

You said "allowed". Anyone can encourage or discourage anyone. That's also allowed. DanTex Feb 2015 #69

No one. Ever. Agschmid Feb 2015 #66

Anyone can run... Agschmid Feb 2015 #65

It's too early. That's why people are not announcing yet. Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #109

No. Everyone does not already know who Hillary is. SheilaT Feb 2015 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #43

Name recognition, pure and simple. SheilaT Feb 2015 #87

Well, the people who hate her certainly recognize her name. And yet, she's still leading. DanTex Feb 2015 #88

Did you notice her popularity drops when she is out talking (recent book tour, for example) peacebird Feb 2015 #102

That's very common. And even with the dips, she still leads the polls. DanTex Feb 2015 #104

Her "centrist" positions may be popular with non Dems, but her last name is not peacebird Feb 2015 #105

Republicans hate all Dems, not just Hillary. But independents don't. DanTex Feb 2015 #106

Perhaps , because they're in Tennessee, Georgia and Texas... brooklynite Feb 2015 #27

Then why run a neoliberal betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #38

people who want to run decide to run and voters vote for them JI7 Feb 2015 #60

Are you not bothered that corrupt donors are discouraging good candidates? betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #62

people who don't post on DU are allowed to vote also JI7 Feb 2015 #63

LOL. DanTex Feb 2015 #84

Then why aren't they running? Agschmid Feb 2015 #70

They're intimidated by threats from leaders donors and lobbyists. n/t betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #73

Threats of what? Agschmid Feb 2015 #76

Their not going to allow her on a committee or support her next campaign etc... betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #79

If she cares about that then she is just as "bad" as the others. Agschmid Feb 2015 #81

If she can be intimidated that easily, WTF would anyone want her for POTUS? Tarheel_Dem Feb 2015 #97

Or maybe, just maybe, Beyon... er uh, Liz LuvLoogie Feb 2015 #108

Ohio? Michigan? Wisconsin? brooklynite Feb 2015 #110

Texas, Georgia and Kentucky. RandySF Feb 2015 #29

Those women all live in Red states. Hillary will be elected in a purple country. n/t pnwmom Feb 2015 #34

We'll see, purple WI didn't have much interest in Mary Burke HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #103

They did elect Gwen Graham Recursion Feb 2015 #37

Please edit Aerows Feb 2015 #42

i think he was talking about Bob Graham's Daughter JI7 Feb 2015 #47

I agree. Lots of reasons to attack Graham. His orientation and/or identity is not one of them. merrily Feb 2015 #49

it's not about lindsey graham, it's about Bob Graham's daughter JI7 Feb 2015 #58

Edited; I was talking about the conservative female Democrat Gwen Graham (FL-2) (nt) Recursion Feb 2015 #72

Sorry, didn't realize people would think I was talking about the Repubican Senator Recursion Feb 2015 #71

No need to apologize Aerows Feb 2015 #85

Would a rightist woman who does not believe in abortion vote for a center rightist woman who does? merrily Feb 2015 #44

That is a good point betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #51

I think people vote a lot along party lines, unless someone or something has energized them mightiy. merrily Feb 2015 #56

They did for Landrieu for years and years Recursion Feb 2015 #83

I can't find exit polls regarding that JonLP24 Feb 2015 #92

things changed after Obama became President, some of the racists who use to vote for her JI7 Feb 2015 #99

Landrieu is a different state and a different election. merrily Feb 2015 #113

Nunn didn't get elected because this is GEORGIA! napi21 Feb 2015 #64

So what is the point of running dem to appeal to those voters betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #67

In Ga. I think they keep trying because lots of people are moving here, napi21 Feb 2015 #93

Were they dameocrats?... SidDithers Feb 2015 #82

!!! Tarheel_Dem Feb 2015 #98

Very small number of people would vote based on gender davidn3600 Feb 2015 #89

Allison Grimes received 40% of the vote from Independents JonLP24 Feb 2015 #91

Wendy Davis had LOSER written all over her bluestateguy Feb 2015 #94

Democrats depending on Republicans for extra votes? AgingAmerican Feb 2015 #95

has there been a competition on DU to see who can come up with the dumbest anti-Hillary posts? wyldwolf Feb 2015 #101

Apparently so.......... Beacool Feb 2015 #111

What a ridiculous OP. zappaman Feb 2015 #112