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In reply to the discussion: I remember how sick and hurt, bitter and ashamed I felt in 2003 watching the invasion gather [View all]Scuba
(53,475 posts)137. "... there was nothing Dems could do."
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I remember how sick and hurt, bitter and ashamed I felt in 2003 watching the invasion gather [View all]
Fumesucker
Feb 2015
OP
the source material is there -- control of the media from embedding to Generals propagandizing
nashville_brook
Feb 2015
#172
It was a total success beyond the wildest dreams of the war profiteers/criminals. And it continues
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#130
Yes, and we don't count. But some of 'us' bought into the lies, even some of our elected officials
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#152
Chelsea Manning warned about Maliki when she was in Iraq. She discovered that the Iraqi
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#168
They never went away. So many Bush holdovers still remain in place. Most of them in Defense. I
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#80
This is why "looking forward" and even "truth and reconciliation" are not just a fail but dangerous
TheKentuckian
Feb 2015
#93
What a coincidence for them too. The PNAC gang also stated that it would be difficult to get the
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#48
I can top that. I wrote one of about a half dozen letters to the editor in July 2012 saying "No War
McCamy Taylor
Feb 2015
#6
I know how I feel about politicians who were fooled, or not, into supporting a war in the WRONG
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#67
I totally agree with you. I do think some of them were actually on board with the whole
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#139
Seeing near orgasmic expressions on FauxNews anchor during Shock&Awe led me to put lock on chnl so
Panich52
Feb 2015
#8
The day of the invasion, I remember going into workers and there were protestors in the street
kimbutgar
Feb 2015
#11
Children burned to death with White Phosphorous! Military admits it, no problem.
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#52
The Senator Byrd Debates on War in Iraq...DU'ers had Running Threads watching C-Span
KoKo
Feb 2015
#124
Thanks for posting, KoKo. In truth, I was thinking even earlier than that
RufusTFirefly
Feb 2015
#125
That was one of the best speeches delivered by anyone that day. I didn't really know much about him
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#132
Yes, the Right trashed him, but he expected that and at a critical moment in our history, he
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#140
Yes, there were a huge number of bridges burned that day and the following ones
Fumesucker
Feb 2015
#55
None of the Very Serious People are actual adults, they are grown up children
Fumesucker
Feb 2015
#16
i wouldn't want anyone who thinks there is no difference between Bush and Gore to run the country
JI7
Feb 2015
#46
well, considering what a disaster Bush was and i knew he would be , it's not easy to forget
JI7
Feb 2015
#70
I agree, saying there is no difference between those who voted for war and against is a lie..
Fumesucker
Feb 2015
#89
Why didn't Hillary know what you knew, that Bush was going to 'fuck things up'?
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#138
Not if someone would have stood up to him. All it took was someone calling the BFEE
Rex
Feb 2015
#40
Hard to tell. When Bush asked for their integrity the DLC'ers couldn't bow low enough
rhett o rick
Feb 2015
#41
I couldn't watch it. But I do remember that CNN was there and showed video at about 4.00 AM the
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#58
Followed by an immediate media blackout..no casualities were to be shown...just patriotic bombs dropping.
Fred Sanders
Feb 2015
#100
Thank you. He was a totally innocent child and one of the first victims of that massive crime.
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#129
Yes, it is. Which is why people go eslewhere to get news. And that is why they are trying to control
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#165
The night of the vote I remember watching Sen Daschle making a great speech
rhett o rick
Feb 2015
#43
I remember how I felt that night also. I am sure I cried, especially when I saw Democrats
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#47
Yes, it does feel good to know that and to know that not everyone who KNEW has forgotten or
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#83
Thank you for this thread. People have short memories, either that or they never really did care
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#63
I didn't read it. Kind of guessed what it was. Maybe I should, it might be interesting to know
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#68
I wouldn't bother, it's pure snark, trying to imitate Manny from a position of weakness
Fumesucker
Feb 2015
#72
Lol, thanks, won't waste the time then. NO ONE can imitate Manny. He is unique!
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#75
And yet....21 Democratic Senators, 1 Independent and 1 Republican DID have the courage to vote no.
PassingFair
Feb 2015
#123
A majority of Democrats voted against it, so I think they knew what was going on, in fact in some
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#131
Thanks for the list. I'd forgotten that more D's voted for it than against. n/t
pnwmom
Feb 2015
#133
meh. I was not involved at politics at all at the time. I was fighting for survival.
magical thyme
Feb 2015
#99
Exactly. Progressives like you and me and others who always seem to consistently come down on the
dissentient
Feb 2015
#87
Why is it so hard for many Hillary backers to just say that she was spectacularly wrong
Broward
Feb 2015
#105
Politically, those who voted against it were marginalized while those who voted Yes rose in the
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2015
#108
Exactly true. I don't hold the IWR against the ones who voted for it, I won't fault the
Autumn
Feb 2015
#113
Thank you, and thank you for your OP. I wish I could rec it about a million times.
Autumn
Feb 2015
#118
The day we started bombing I was visiting one daughter - both of us we anti-war and said so. Then
jwirr
Feb 2015
#116
Holding it over their heads doesn't do any good, you were right for the wrong reasons
Fumesucker
Feb 2015
#147
Who said there was no forgiveness. In fact they were not to blame so they did not need forgiveness.
jwirr
Feb 2015
#148
Yep. I knew the war was a mistake based on lies. I can't believe that US Senators didn't know that.
Scuba
Feb 2015
#122
"Shock & Awe." W justed wanted to get his war on. Any war. So 9/11 warnings were intentionally
blkmusclmachine
Feb 2015
#146
I have more respect for Hillary Clinton's intelligence than to believe she was fooled
Fumesucker
Feb 2015
#157
The pols who were inside the Washington bubble were told that the American people
Lydia Leftcoast
Feb 2015
#171
We Are All Pawns Of The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks That Own And Control The Politicians
cantbeserious
Feb 2015
#162