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guillaumeb

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33. your comment could have been made about President Obama

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:19 PM

Mar 2015

and it was. The whole "past accomplishment" meme is often coupled with "a lack of experience" to disparage candidates. No one has experience being President prior to being President.

To say:She's famous for being famous, like a political Kardashian. That is both a strength and a weakness, and can cut both ways." completely ignores what she tried to do about health care reform, ignores her obvious abilities as a lawyer, and ignores her work as SOS. You may not like all or any of what she did as a corporate attorney, may not agree with her prescriptions for health care reform, may not feel that she accomplished anything of lasting value as SOS, but you cannot deny she accomplished things.

Comparing her to a Kardashian, or a Palin, could be seen by many as nasty, sexist, and reductionist.

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I think I'm doing a re-think on Hillary...This "pile-on" of her is so ridiculous and just seems [View all] monmouth4 Mar 2015 OP

It has been disheartening on DU the past week. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #1

Curious as to what you think she did that was "wonderful" as SoS. TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #2

Here are a few: BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #7

First two paragraphs: fuzzy and unprovable. TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #8

I do give her credit for emphasizing the importance of Asia to our interests. TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #10

She's not perfect, and we can go back and forth on the pros and cons, but you asked BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #12

The double-edged sword with her is, people who admire her do so because of who TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #15

" If her image of Towering Clinton Might and Inevitability starts to crumble, what's left?" BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #19

I appreciate and understand your pragmatism. TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #20

your comment could have been made about President Obama guillaumeb Mar 2015 #33

The Clintons have been in the public eye long enough for me to reasonably TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #41

there is a big difference between would and could guillaumeb Mar 2015 #43

Jeb Bush is another Hillary Clinton. Not a very distinguished governor TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #44

while I agree with a C+ or B-, in comparison to a kinda sleezy ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2015 #30

I guess "wonderful" was a bit of exaggeration and I don't recall her having any lasting monmouth4 Mar 2015 #9

she was implementing the poliocy of her boss, obama. she is not the one to criticize for policy nt msongs Mar 2015 #17

I think that in the general most people will vote for Clinton in the general election. el_bryanto Mar 2015 #3

Don't like her much and didn't think she did anything significant as Sen or SecState�.BUT... blm Mar 2015 #4

While she is no where near as progressive as I would like, she is still a damn sight better OregonBlue Mar 2015 #5

I'm not surprised conservatives have a problem with powerful women meow2u3 Mar 2015 #6

The "opposing Hillary's policies is sexism" talking point is worn out. Maedhros Mar 2015 #18

maybe YOU'RE who the one who needs new talking points Skittles Mar 2015 #24

I don't like being called sexist, especially when it's not true. Maedhros Mar 2015 #25

try valid criticisms of Hillary instead of hysterical assertions Skittles Mar 2015 #27

What "hysterical assertions" have I made? Maedhros Mar 2015 #31

the topic is HILLARY HYSTERIA Skittles Mar 2015 #34

What "Hillary hysteria?" Maedhros Mar 2015 #36

I see see why you're not seeing it Skittles Mar 2015 #37

I stand in awe of your reasoning. [n/t] Maedhros Mar 2015 #40

Why do so many who oppose Hillary support Warren? nt LittleBlue Mar 2015 #35

It's totally safe to support someone who is not going to run. They can never disappoint you. Hekate Mar 2015 #46

There is a huge difference between Republiconism and Conservativism. The sexist Republicans rhett o rick Mar 2015 #38

Good lord. That's the only reason someone can disagree with her?? arcane1 Mar 2015 #42

I hear you. I really don't care for much of her politics. I don't like her cali Mar 2015 #11

Well, looks like this story will last for months, so I guess you will be a hard core supporter by dissentient Mar 2015 #13

It only looks that way because there isn't something newer and shinier to ponder HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #14

This has been a familiar pattern with both Clintons for decades. enough Mar 2015 #16

"I'll be voting for X just because I'll be so pissed at his/her enemies." ND-Dem Mar 2015 #21

Actually the pattern is this... wyldwolf Mar 2015 #23

I think you stated my feelings quite well...Thank you..n/t monmouth4 Mar 2015 #45

She capitulated to Republicons. She is partially responsible for the deaths of thousands. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #22

Has Elizabeth Warren called for the immediate withdrawl of our trips from Iraq/Afghanistan? brooklynite Mar 2015 #26

So now you are thinking about supporting her? liberal N proud Mar 2015 #28

that's the thing Skittles Mar 2015 #29

You are right, I was never in her camp but this piling on is a bit much and a good hard monmouth4 Mar 2015 #32

In the long run, this tempest in a tea cup won't matter. Beacool Mar 2015 #39