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uhnope

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25. you need to brush up on the subject

Sun Mar 8, 2015, 06:59 PM

Mar 2015

France, Germany and the Scandinavian countries are all capitalism but with elements of socialism (more than the US). Those elements don't make them not capitalist, unless you think the USA is not capitalist because we have Social Security, the US Postal Service, welfare, etc.

Um, China is not longer considered State Socialism anymore and hasn't been for a long time because it's become capitalistic in its economics though still a totalitarian in its government practices, similiar to Russia.

It seems to me that if you think Germany or Scandinavia have pretty good systems, you support managed capitalism with strong public support networks and strong public welfare systems. And we agree.

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In The SU, Capitalism Triumphed Over Communism, In This Country Capitalism Triumphed Over Democracy [View all] mother earth Mar 2015 OP

kr ND-Dem Mar 2015 #1

"In This Country Capitalism Triumphed Over Democracy" - yes, yes it did. djean111 Mar 2015 #2

Happily, it is beginning to look so. Our "political" choices are a joke, in the end we get more mother earth Mar 2015 #3

so replace capitalism with what? uhnope Mar 2015 #4

You are so right. There is nothing else. We should drink the cool-aid and accept rhett o rick Mar 2015 #5

you have skills uhnope Mar 2015 #7

I get tired of some here that only ask questions with insinuations. It's a technique used rhett o rick Mar 2015 #9

wow, you read a lot into 5 words uhnope Mar 2015 #10

By insisting that the OP provide an alternate you are insinuating there is none as rhett o rick Mar 2015 #11

really, there was no insinuation and you can't wring one from 5 words uhnope Mar 2015 #18

I agree that there are some good economic systems out there. And I am sorry rhett o rick Mar 2015 #20

some good capitalist economic systems, then? uhnope Mar 2015 #21

I would hardly call them "capitalistic". They have socialistic aspects. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #22

you need to brush up on the subject uhnope Mar 2015 #25

I do support managed capitalism with strong social programs. In the USofA rhett o rick Mar 2015 #26

OK great. Looks like we actually agree uhnope Mar 2015 #29

Umm, how about the sort of democratic socialism hifiguy Mar 2015 #12

Democracy? Rex Mar 2015 #14

So there's no democracy in any capitalist country? Reaaaaally? uhnope Mar 2015 #19

Nice try at reading my mind. Not in this country, sorry no not really. Rex Mar 2015 #23

We should replace under-regulated capitalism with regulated capitalism Taitertots Mar 2015 #38

Capitalism is like a disease. It is all consuming, and eventually will eat itself. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #6

Marx diagnosed the disease to perfection. hifiguy Mar 2015 #13

He was on the right track. Adam Smith was closer in the understanding of social necessities. IMO. Rex Mar 2015 #24

I think we have agreed this is not exactly true uhnope Mar 2015 #30

This is very sad. Trillo Mar 2015 #8

I don't think it's possible peacefully. The elites have to decide on just how much they can rhett o rick Mar 2015 #15

Greed is the most powerful, pernicious and dangerous addiction hifiguy Mar 2015 #16

Capitalism is a parasite that kills it's host. nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #17

Wish more people realized that! ~nt~ b.durruti Mar 2015 #27

All isms end in schisms. Cayenne Mar 2015 #28

! DeSwiss Mar 2015 #32

Great minds, etc., etc.... DeSwiss Mar 2015 #31

'In This Country Capitalism Triumphed Over Democracy'??? Riiiight... Yorktown Mar 2015 #33

Except for where gains have been scaled back or dismantled altogether in favor of the mother earth Mar 2015 #34

Are there countries more democratic than western democracies? Yorktown Mar 2015 #35

Democracy is morphing every day, in every way, it is not a good thing to be complacent about. nt mother earth Mar 2015 #37

Capitalism is CANCER. DeSwiss Mar 2015 #36

LOL uhnope Mar 2015 #39