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74. Why is this so unspoken?

Tue Mar 31, 2015, 02:46 PM

Mar 2015

Why does nobody care, or care for more than a second?

I've tried to post about this several times in threads over the past few days, and except for 2 or 3 people, nobody seems either to get it or to give a hoot.

I'll tell you who is starting to get it. People like my nephew and his husband, who have a daughter. Feminism is an issue for everyone, not least gay men and women. Every son, every daughter, every sister, every brother, ought to care about this.

Many states got away with discrimination by means of "conscience clauses" that allowed pharmacists to opt out of filling contraceptive prescriptions on the basis of their religious beliefs. And then there was Hobby Lobby, where the Supreme Court legitimized discrimination against women by private entities, if health insurance that covers contraceptives "offended" their religious beliefs. So now we're surprised that states are opening the door for discrimination against LGBT people? Hell, we let them discriminate against 50% of the population, and little stink was raised. We're now reaping the results of our apathy.

First they came for women ...

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Women's Reproductive Rights are every bit as important as LGBT rights or [View all] cali Mar 2015 OP

yes dembotoz Mar 2015 #1

That's why I don't call the Indiana bill Anti-LGBT LynneSin Mar 2015 #2

Can the Indiana Law be used to protect reproductive rights? Downwinder Mar 2015 #20

If a pharmacist doesn't believe in abortion they could use the law to not hand out... LynneSin Mar 2015 #26

But if he believes in choice can he hand Downwinder Mar 2015 #31

Don't birth control pills have to be prescribed by a doctor? nt valerief Apr 2015 #155

things needing a prescription still need that but could hand it condoms, non-rx of course. uppityperson Apr 2015 #161

You still need a prescription LynneSin Apr 2015 #168

No. jeff47 Mar 2015 #54

I don't know about that example dsc Mar 2015 #69

You BETTER BELIEVE they'd try to use it against women and other groups, too. As many other groups calimary Mar 2015 #28

sure do. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #46

But don't you get it, Blanche? Women are containers. calimary Mar 2015 #66

I've been saying that since forever...that women aren't really people. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #71

Wow, that is a powerful statement! Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #131

Show on Syfy "Helix" just introduced that concept in the last episode. NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #103

They want to enforce their notion of morality... haikugal Mar 2015 #113

women BARELY have reproductive rights in Indiana -- "extremely hostile state" nashville_brook Mar 2015 #29

That's obvious- a woman who had a miscarriage might get 70 years in jail LynneSin Mar 2015 #33

but we're way more concerned that a gay couple might not be able to buy flowers from a xtian? nashville_brook Mar 2015 #36

Wow -- what a way to trivialize it nichomachus Mar 2015 #56

and women's healthcare isn't just about abortions -- but we get no help nashville_brook Apr 2015 #146

That is not what I took away from it, also I find your response repulsive Dragonfli Mar 2015 #85

+1... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #101

there's no "excusing" either -- but one is never mentioned, the other is a national outrage nashville_brook Apr 2015 #145

That is what the OP was pointing out, yet without diminishing the other Dragonfli Apr 2015 #150

This remark is really Skidmore Apr 2015 #157

Well, it WILL increase the potential profit base in our nation's proud private prisons! PatrickforO Mar 2015 #121

Great and stark maps! thanks cali Mar 2015 #62

The difference is that there are federal laws to protect women Fearless Mar 2015 #60

Essentially meaningless under the onslaught of state laws and regulations cali Mar 2015 #63

Except that Federal laws and regulations generally supercede those at the state level. Veilex Mar 2015 #95

Why don't you read up on the spate of women being prosecuted or jailed to bettyellen Mar 2015 #117

do try paying attention to the endless spate of restrictions on women's rights in each of the niyad Mar 2015 #120

Grrrrr. Man, that shit stinks. cali Apr 2015 #137

it does, indeed. niyad Apr 2015 #153

Fucking Fail of Great Magnitude. Try to keep up, dude. cali Apr 2015 #136

Well, actually you're wrong about that CreekDog Apr 2015 #165

We can be upset at both. We don't have to choose one or the other. n/t BeeBee Mar 2015 #3

People have chosen. Post a thread about a new discriminatory law against cali Mar 2015 #8

At least this one did. question everything Mar 2015 #16

that was one of the few. most posts on women's rights and the attacks against them niyad Mar 2015 #21

That's why we have to start attaching that issue to the LGBT issue. calimary Mar 2015 #32

we've totally chosen -- and women lost out. nashville_brook Mar 2015 #23

All rights are under attack. MineralMan Mar 2015 #4

Sorry. Women's Reproductive rights are FAR more under attack cali Mar 2015 #5

Why would you think I do not know that? MineralMan Mar 2015 #11

This is what I was talking about BainsBane Mar 2015 #25

Don't forget the mentally ill Liberalynn Mar 2015 #51

+1 appalachiablue Apr 2015 #127

Yes, of course. Though my comments weren't meant to include all oppressed groups BainsBane Apr 2015 #133

far more insofar as legistlatio goes. cali Mar 2015 #64

I'll say this, again ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #107

tough. and bullshit. was that clear enough? cali Apr 2015 #138

Yes. your newly found concern for ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #143

+1 BainsBane Mar 2015 #7

Again, you are far more graceful/accepting than I am ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #105

Yes, and not just reproductive rights BainsBane Mar 2015 #6

And you are fucking wrong. There is no pitting only anger that people don't cali Mar 2015 #10

Well, I certainly agree with that. BainsBane Mar 2015 #17

Yes and this makes me so angry kcr Apr 2015 #141

I see it that way too.. haikugal Mar 2015 #114

As long as half the world's population is dumped on by the other half LiberalEsto Mar 2015 #9