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FBaggins

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31. Actually... it's entirely relevant.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 11:00 AM
Apr 2015

In this case, getting it right would mean that you wouldn't make the mistake of thinking that the explosion occured within the reactor vessel.

With your earlier theory, the burning zirconium is creating both hydrogen and oxygen... which could create an explosive mix within the reactor vessel.

In reality, ziroconium (or in this case zircalloy) does not burn in water without the prexistence of oxygen. The hydrogen is created by the oxydation of the zircalloy in water. The chemical reaction strips oxygen from the water (but that oxygen is now bound to the new "rust" molecule) and frees the hydrogen. The key difference being that there still isn't any free oxygen in the reactor vessel to form an explosive mix. The hydrogen has to escape the RPV and mix with the oxygen outside of the reactor (in this case... within the reactor building).

Note (as mentioned to RE in the prior post) that if the explosion was from within the reactor, it would have to blow the lid off of the RPV and the concrete cap. The cap is clearly still in place, so we would now know for certain that this didn't happen (if we didn't already agree that BWR cores can't explode).

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Finally RobertEarl Apr 2015 #1
I had to clean some of it off the windows and cars over past couple days- snooper2 Apr 2015 #2
You too? zappaman Apr 2015 #3
Don't eat the yellow snow RobertEarl Apr 2015 #4
If the snow is yellow, it aint from radiation NickB79 Apr 2015 #7
Glad you brought that up RobertEarl Apr 2015 #10
Really? FBaggins Apr 2015 #5
My estimate? RobertEarl Apr 2015 #6
That's not an answer FBaggins Apr 2015 #8
You think corium came out in that hydrogen explosion? nt Bonobo Apr 2015 #9
What I think RobertEarl Apr 2015 #11
Care to try again? FBaggins Apr 2015 #13
No, you didn't. Yes, you did. FBaggins! RobertEarl Apr 2015 #15
You actually think electrolysis = "water splits into hydrogen and oxygen when it gets hot"? FBaggins Apr 2015 #16
Why yes water does split into hydrogen and oxygen RobertEarl Apr 2015 #18
Most likely a zirconium fire quaker bill Apr 2015 #19
Yes, thanks RobertEarl Apr 2015 #20
Nope. Not from heat it doesn't. FBaggins Apr 2015 #21
That sure is ugly RobertEarl Apr 2015 #22
The precise mechanism is barely relevant quaker bill Apr 2015 #23
Thanks for that info, QB RobertEarl Apr 2015 #25
The energy (radiation) moves at the speed of light quaker bill Apr 2015 #29
Actually... it's entirely relevant. FBaggins Apr 2015 #31
More so than you realize. But it's also hilarious. FBaggins Apr 2015 #30
The technology that will be developed to deal with this obxhead Apr 2015 #12
I have a feeling.. RobertEarl Apr 2015 #28
''However, the robot stopped functioning before completing the day's planned inspection.'' Octafish Apr 2015 #14
Tepco doesn't know why... so what's your theory? FBaggins Apr 2015 #17
Poor Design? Ask TEPCO. Octafish Apr 2015 #24
You've obviously been reading too many of RobertEarl's imaginings FBaggins Apr 2015 #33
Also worth noting that "choked" is a stretch. FBaggins Apr 2015 #34
They tried Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #26
The electronics are workin fine FBaggins Apr 2015 #32
I wish my grandfather were still alive davidpdx Apr 2015 #27
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