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seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 11:50 AM Apr 2015

i really have been out of the political on DU since 2012. got obama, i could step away for a couple [View all]

years. and here we are again.

i have always been into the fair play. also, the pragmatic type position. calling out the lies, everywhere, while internally looking at our party and our supporters cause i want us strong, where ever we land.

i found out there is another du. the argument for a third liberal party.... or something.

that is going to be interesting. i just learned about htis yesterday and it is going to effect the way du progresses over the months and year and half. i have to keep this in mind.

but here is the thing. i am a democrat. i do not buy into .... both the parties the same. the democratic party heavily supports my positions. i want more from our democratic party in DC. i may not get it. i love to listen and be a part of actions to get more from our democratic leaders. but, i will wait and see what happens the next year and a half.

the democratic party heavily supports my position.

we make the statement, often scorn and mock... how can so many in the republican party vote against their interest. how stupid are they. pointing our finger and laughing and laughing. (women, we cannot be pres cause of our hormones but we can take care of babies and mold our young humans ... )

as i look at du, there are some people demanding i do just that. ignore my interests. dont vote cause we do not get a certain dem. because we can not get everything we want from a democratic leader, and as too many have been stating to me and others..... our issue are not the ones that matter.

well, yes. they do.

there are all kinds of names we are given. i understand justice warrior or whatever is one. i dunno all that garbage and stuff.

i do not know who i am going to support. we have a year and half. but wow, since clintons announcement what? three days ago?

we are to pointing and saying, .... fan, cheerleader and so many more descriptive, to dismiss anyone that favors clinton for various reasons. i read that clinton supporters were just 'fraid to see the misery, death, horror of war and reality of corporate. well, i challenge that statement. and i am not a supporter, but you can damn well bet, that is a false statement. i am gonna go out on a limb here and ask hillary supporters.... do you see get understand the deaths of war and the greed of corporate? can your little brains process this i say in sarcasm. cause really folks, i have more faith in my fellow dem and know they damn well have an understanding. how belittling. but, that is what the intent it. to belittle. lets not paint our fellow democrats in such a falsehood. it is not true.

we do not need to resort to reducing voters to empty minded/mindless zombies/cowards/fans/cheerleaders ect....

we are dems, all of us. unless we really arent? is this what the third party liberal is, a different party? educate me.

gonna be an interesting season.




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Another DU? Are you just making a point or is there something I dont know? NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #1
mmmm. last night i was reading a group and a strong stand that they are separate of democrats. seabeyond Apr 2015 #2
oh, an i like that bernie logo. i have not seen that. but here is the thing... seabeyond Apr 2015 #3
I am fullly with Hillary once Bernie is out of the pic which he will be eventually NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #4
i do not even no where i stand. i know nov '16 i will be voting dem. for sure. a fact. adamant. seabeyond Apr 2015 #5
Some people are confusing the dates, too. The election is in A YEAR AND A HALF, not six months NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #6
a WHOLE year and half. and you know what? this is like the first three days? lol seabeyond Apr 2015 #7
The primaries begin in 7 1/2 months. former9thward Apr 2015 #18
Primary in November? Where? For Presidential election? NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #19
isnt primary like next spring?? and the parties tussel when? nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #20
Thought so, could google it but I havent yet NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #21
ya. that is at least 6 months away, right.... we have time. seabeyond Apr 2015 #22
Jan 18th is not spring on anyone's calendar. former9thward Apr 2015 #48
agreed, i didnt realize it was that soon NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #60
you know what i was thinking. the convention. remember the last couple elections seabeyond Apr 2015 #61
Jan 18th is spring? former9thward Apr 2015 #47
wow. i asked a question. obviously didnt know. your reason for the nasty of your post? nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #49
Jan. 18, 2016 former9thward Apr 2015 #46
Being mocked at a site called Democraticunderground JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #14
being fuggin mocked cause as a woman i vote per womens support. i mean, really? seabeyond Apr 2015 #17
I envy whatever vacation you've been on daredtowork Apr 2015 #23
see. the very first sentence, your title. you are being insulting/dismissive. right? nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #24
Sigh daredtowork Apr 2015 #25
but, i did not call you names. i am on your side. i am part of all of us. and i calling out the seabeyond Apr 2015 #26
Your calling me out for using loaded terms and being dismissive daredtowork Apr 2015 #28
i asked. were you not being dismissive/insulting? they may be polite, but they were seabeyond Apr 2015 #30
i have been working hard on my area. you know, getting young women out of state for legal seabeyond Apr 2015 #27
Please stop *looking* for terms to twist daredtowork Apr 2015 #29
so, it is my bad for seeing vacation, time away from work, .... play? nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #31
Yes - no slur was intended. nt daredtowork Apr 2015 #33
Meanwhile, in Bizzaro Universe ... ieoeja Apr 2015 #34
Totally agree about the camps and the bad blood daredtowork Apr 2015 #38
it looks like you are attributing that to me. i take it, you are replying to my post 26? seabeyond Apr 2015 #40
ok. good to know. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #39
What we have is an infestation of icky Libertarians ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #8
got to the end of your post. yes... yes yes. you live in a totally blue state. as i live red. seabeyond Apr 2015 #9
So true! ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #15
and i never paid enough attention, until recently. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #50
Left Leaning Independents...aka Libertarians.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #51
Whatever views one holds, G_j Apr 2015 #10
terms like cheerleader, hater etc. is intellectually dishonest. seabeyond Apr 2015 #12
Exactly ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #16
Agreed. madfloridian Apr 2015 #32
Great post sea! JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #11
thank you gen..... i am feeling good here in my little corner of the world. seabeyond Apr 2015 #13
"True Believer" by Eric Hoffer describes the fan types quite well. So it may not be incorrect to jtuck004 Apr 2015 #35
Totally agree seabeyond zentricity Apr 2015 #36
scotus. as i say, there are no options for women. laws are being passed at our expense. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #41
At this point, I am resolved not to vote for her, and if that means closeupready Apr 2015 #37
as i said to zentricity. as a woman, i do not have the privilege of simply not voting to make my seabeyond Apr 2015 #42
That is definitely a persuasive argument in favor of holding nose/voting for HRC. closeupready Apr 2015 #43
There are many socialist women in my area whom you might be interested in talking to. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #52
i had to cross state lines for a grown woman to get a legal medical procedure. seabeyond Apr 2015 #53
I hear you. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #56
what area, or general area are you in? i think it would be grand to talk to seabeyond Apr 2015 #54
Seattle, up near the U. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #55
that is right seabeyond Apr 2015 #57
Exactly how I felt when I joined the ISO--nice to be with like minds. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #58
OMG, ... it is the 15th. lol. ya.... run! nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #59
Another thing I've noticed are particular, subtly-pejorative and self-fulfilling prophecies LanternWaste Apr 2015 #44
'Messiah'... yes. it is to inform, people are merely followers without a brain in their head, or seabeyond Apr 2015 #45
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