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In reply to the discussion: i really have been out of the political on DU since 2012. got obama, i could step away for a couple [View all]F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)They would say the exact opposite, as well as many of the PoC there, that they are so disenfranchised in this current system that they can't afford to vote for any continuation of the establishment. I hesitate to say more, as it is not my place to speak for them, but I think they would disagree, and vehemently, with the pragmatism you describe. I understand why you feel the way you do, particularly after Bush, but they (and I) cannot see how it will do us any good to continue supporting them during the shift. I also think they make an excellent case for why women's rights cannot be fully realized by supporting establishment politicians.
I am willing to discuss this more with you in depth, but I would prefer to do it in HOF or by PM, for obvious reasons.