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Sivafae

(480 posts)
19. And this absolutely exemplifies the problem with what is happening.
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 01:00 PM
Apr 2015

I find it hard to believe that someone would bother carrying around a mattress for weeks on end for the mere purpose of ruining someone's life. If I remember correctly, Universities are not in the law enforcement business other than teaching law enforcement.

The very idea that the University did not do enough to assist law enforcement to apprehend and either exonerate or convict this person shows a defect in the system.

The fact that there are 1000's of rape kits all across the country also demonstrates the fact that this crime, a felony, is not a priority. We certainly don't have that issue when it come to the drug war.

And while I do believe that a person is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, when law enforcement fails to bring justice to and for victims, then victims must be able to say that this person is a danger to society in some way. Bill Cosby raped women for years and years and years. So much so, that women are still coming out of the woodwork to claim as such. The reason he was allowed to do so was because no one would or did believe the victims. So he was able to continue his criminal behaviour without impediment.

When a victim is not taken seriously, how does the victim alert others to the danger of the person who behaves criminally? I thought the purpose of the Criminal Justice system was to remove those who are a proven danger to society because of their (violent) behaviour. When the system does not investigate properly acts that are criminal, how does one alert others to the danger of that person? I am not suggesting lists on the internets or anything. Making a claim that someone has acted criminally and officials not doing their utmost best to investigate the situation is not slander because the purpose isn't to defame, but to seek justice for a criminal act.

So this guy, whoever he is, claiming that the University is responsible for his lack of employment is kind of hubbub to me. The University has no interest in protecting its students from claims of criminal behaviour. They do, however, have a responsibility to turn over any information they have to apprehend and try someone for possible criminal behaviour.

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K&R for rape culture visibility. NT KitSileya Apr 2015 #1
This will keep the lawyers fed. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #2
He's an ass for wanting to defend his reputation? Nice. Seeking Serenity Apr 2015 #6
He's an ass for thinking the university has any culpability. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #7
Aren't universities supposed to protect students from a hostile environment? Seeking Serenity Apr 2015 #9
So pretend you're in a position to decide. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #10
Columbia has failed to protect him from a hostile environment. Seeking Serenity Apr 2015 #12
There are two students with grievances. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #13
Her grievance was heard and dismissed for lack of evidence. Seeking Serenity Apr 2015 #14
That wasn't my question. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #15
How about not permitting her to carry around a mattress Seeking Serenity Apr 2015 #18
I disagree. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #20
Yeah, Columbia will probably settle. Seeking Serenity Apr 2015 #21
Seems like the best way to do that would be to sue the perp LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #22
I think he probably should Seeking Serenity Apr 2015 #24
Thank you. Nicely done. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #25
Courts are in a position to decide. hifiguy Apr 2015 #32
Unless the girl and/or the university directly named him, Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #45
She said she would carry the mattress til her "rapist" was expelled riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #54
That's the funny part about defamation... Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #63
It was her senior thesis, thus bringing the unversity into it. Yo_Mama Apr 2015 #42
Free speech? Sure. Let me spread rumors that you kill puppies. alp227 Apr 2015 #47
Did it ever occur to him that raping someone would ruin his reputation? n/t Sivafae Apr 2015 #3
He was never charged with anything, let alone convicted. LisaL Apr 2015 #4
He was cleared of wrongdoing. The sex was consensual, regretted later. Yo_Mama Apr 2015 #43
Please provide your evidence of his guilt of "raping someone" Seeking Serenity Apr 2015 #5
And this absolutely exemplifies the problem with what is happening. Sivafae Apr 2015 #19
things can take on a life of their own cali Apr 2015 #23
Having had several friends who WERE raped, I don't believe it. Yo_Mama Apr 2015 #44
i was raped. cali Apr 2015 #48
I'm sorry - this sort of thing has to grind a little. n/t Yo_Mama Apr 2015 #56
I don't think the alleged victims affect or behavior after the fact is a good indicator stevenleser Apr 2015 #57
Why do we need trials at all? For any crime. LisaL Apr 2015 #58
The Ed Meese approach: hifiguy Apr 2015 #59
Cute straw man. That is not what I said. I have no ability to pronounce someone guilty. nt stevenleser Apr 2015 #62
I've read a lot about this case. I'm far from convinced that he raped her cali Apr 2015 #8
I am far from convinced also. LisaL Apr 2015 #11
"I love you Paul. Where are you?!" A: "Praying before the God of the One-Night Stand." Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #39
Sounds more like "friends with benefits" to me. LisaL Apr 2015 #40
That's why he begs for forgiveness before ol' One Night. Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #41
People rarely make up rape claims 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #16
i suggest reading more about this cali Apr 2015 #17
"The Great Oz has spoken!!" Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #36
Women who were raped do not contact their victims as she did, and the "rapist" Yo_Mama Apr 2015 #46
Try reading some more about this. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #49
Men's Rights bullshit. nt LexVegas Apr 2015 #26
how much do you know about this specific case? cali Apr 2015 #27
Back it up or shut up. hifiguy Apr 2015 #33
Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #34
I think the courts are perfectly capable of sifting the wheat hifiguy Apr 2015 #35
Yeah, seen one you seen ' em all, right? Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #38
Yeah, those fake rape claims never hurt anyone. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #50
What an odd declaration. (nt) Inkfreak Apr 2015 #51
The court documents are interesting for those taking the time to read them LordGlenconner Apr 2015 #28
Too many women have tried to have relationships with their rapists KitSileya Apr 2015 #29
+1. historylovr Apr 2015 #52
Many respondents in this thread need to read this post. Thanks. nt RedCappedBandit Apr 2015 #53
Also DU discussion on this issue in Latest Breaking News... PoliticAverse Apr 2015 #30
Don't know who raped or didn't rape whom, but Columbia is guilty. McCamy Taylor Apr 2015 #31
The requirement that institutions provide a safe learning and living environment may be dubious Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #37
I've read up on this case. linuxman Apr 2015 #55
Speaking as an attorney, I would tell Columbia to hifiguy Apr 2015 #61
I read 22 pages of the lawsuit and I am appalled at Columbia Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #60
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