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alp227

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47. Free speech? Sure. Let me spread rumors that you kill puppies.

Fri Apr 24, 2015, 04:39 PM

Apr 2015

I'd like to get your real name and buy a billboard saying: &quot your real name) KILLS PUPPIES! GO HARASS (real name) NOW!" See how that works?

When I first saw Sulkowicz on Democracy Now in September, I was sympathetic. But after reading the complaint filed by the student she accuses of rape, I am very livid. She took a noble cause and made it egocentric. Her tactics turned off many potential supporters. Her tactics make things WORSE, not better, for rape victims. I can't believe what I'm seeing on DU. I thought people here would know better, having studied Joe McCarthy and gone through the accusations that John Kerry lied about serving in Vietnam and Obama is an undercover Kenyan-born Marxist Muslim terrorist. Sometimes, I feel DU can be no more open minded than a certain 1990s looking right wing forum.

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Columbia Student Sues University, Says Rape Accuser Has Ruined His Reputation [View all] philosslayer Apr 2015 OP

K&R for rape culture visibility. NT KitSileya Apr 2015 #1

This will keep the lawyers fed. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #2

He's an ass for wanting to defend his reputation? Nice. Seeking Serenity Apr 2015 #6

He's an ass for thinking the university has any culpability. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #7

Aren't universities supposed to protect students from a hostile environment? Seeking Serenity Apr 2015 #9

So pretend you're in a position to decide. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #10

Columbia has failed to protect him from a hostile environment. Seeking Serenity Apr 2015 #12

There are two students with grievances. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #13

Her grievance was heard and dismissed for lack of evidence. Seeking Serenity Apr 2015 #14

That wasn't my question. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #15

How about not permitting her to carry around a mattress Seeking Serenity Apr 2015 #18

I disagree. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #20

Yeah, Columbia will probably settle. Seeking Serenity Apr 2015 #21

Seems like the best way to do that would be to sue the perp LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #22

I think he probably should Seeking Serenity Apr 2015 #24

Thank you. Nicely done. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #25

Courts are in a position to decide. hifiguy Apr 2015 #32

Unless the girl and/or the university directly named him, Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #45

She said she would carry the mattress til her "rapist" was expelled riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #54

That's the funny part about defamation... Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #63

It was her senior thesis, thus bringing the unversity into it. Yo_Mama Apr 2015 #42

Free speech? Sure. Let me spread rumors that you kill puppies. alp227 Apr 2015 #47

Did it ever occur to him that raping someone would ruin his reputation? n/t Sivafae Apr 2015 #3

He was never charged with anything, let alone convicted. LisaL Apr 2015 #4

He was cleared of wrongdoing. The sex was consensual, regretted later. Yo_Mama Apr 2015 #43

Please provide your evidence of his guilt of "raping someone" Seeking Serenity Apr 2015 #5

And this absolutely exemplifies the problem with what is happening. Sivafae Apr 2015 #19

things can take on a life of their own cali Apr 2015 #23

Having had several friends who WERE raped, I don't believe it. Yo_Mama Apr 2015 #44

i was raped. cali Apr 2015 #48

I'm sorry - this sort of thing has to grind a little. n/t Yo_Mama Apr 2015 #56

I don't think the alleged victims affect or behavior after the fact is a good indicator stevenleser Apr 2015 #57

Why do we need trials at all? For any crime. LisaL Apr 2015 #58

The Ed Meese approach: hifiguy Apr 2015 #59

Cute straw man. That is not what I said. I have no ability to pronounce someone guilty. nt stevenleser Apr 2015 #62

I've read a lot about this case. I'm far from convinced that he raped her cali Apr 2015 #8

I am far from convinced also. LisaL Apr 2015 #11

"I love you Paul. Where are you?!" A: "Praying before the God of the One-Night Stand." Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #39

Sounds more like "friends with benefits" to me. LisaL Apr 2015 #40

That's why he begs for forgiveness before ol' One Night. Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #41

People rarely make up rape claims 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #16

i suggest reading more about this cali Apr 2015 #17

"The Great Oz has spoken!!" Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #36

Women who were raped do not contact their victims as she did, and the "rapist" Yo_Mama Apr 2015 #46

Try reading some more about this. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #49

Men's Rights bullshit. nt LexVegas Apr 2015 #26

how much do you know about this specific case? cali Apr 2015 #27

Back it up or shut up. hifiguy Apr 2015 #33

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #34

I think the courts are perfectly capable of sifting the wheat hifiguy Apr 2015 #35

Yeah, seen one you seen ' em all, right? Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #38

Yeah, those fake rape claims never hurt anyone. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #50

What an odd declaration. (nt) Inkfreak Apr 2015 #51

The court documents are interesting for those taking the time to read them LordGlenconner Apr 2015 #28

Too many women have tried to have relationships with their rapists KitSileya Apr 2015 #29

+1. historylovr Apr 2015 #52

Many respondents in this thread need to read this post. Thanks. nt RedCappedBandit Apr 2015 #53

Also DU discussion on this issue in Latest Breaking News... PoliticAverse Apr 2015 #30

Don't know who raped or didn't rape whom, but Columbia is guilty. McCamy Taylor Apr 2015 #31

The requirement that institutions provide a safe learning and living environment may be dubious Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #37

I've read up on this case. linuxman Apr 2015 #55

Speaking as an attorney, I would tell Columbia to hifiguy Apr 2015 #61

I read 22 pages of the lawsuit and I am appalled at Columbia Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #60