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calimary

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31. I don't condone it either. We've seen it in the rise of the teabaggers. Acting out.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 12:44 PM
Apr 2015

And it's just as destructive.

We were talking about this just a few days ago. We. Have. GOT. TO. Look. At. The. Causes. Of. This. GOT TO!

Otherwise it's just gonna keep happening and keep happening and keep happening.

What happens, for example, when you operate in close quarters with one or more people who have bad colds. They come to work or school and don't stay home or go to the doctor or otherwise get treatment so they can get well. They stay in place, and you keep getting sick. So does everybody else who has to operate in the same close quarters with them.

We were talking about 9/11. I remembered the very first thing that crossed my mind when I woke up that morning and saw the coverage and the one building that had already disappeared and the other that was on fire: "WHAT ON EARTH would make someone hate so much that they'd feel the need/urge/desire to do THAT?" "WHAT MADE THEM DO THIS?" "And shouldn't we get our asses in gear and LOOK AT THAT, SERIOUSLY, if we want to keep it from happening again?" Instead our country went out like Troglodytes with rocks and clubs - like the saying describing "if all you have is a hammer, then everything around you is gonna look like a nail." So it's just HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT. With no regard for the causality, what brought this on to begin with, what provoked this behavior. NONE.

It's like we don't even want to deal with that. Especially if it means we have to look very closely, painfully, realistically, and honestly, at what WE did, ON OUR END, to provoke it.

This stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum. There's a causality that nobody seems to want to bother with, although we ARE hearing a wee bit more attention paid to the causality in this civil turmoil we see now, breaking out all over the country because of Baltimore. Oh yeah, because of Ferguson. Oh yeah, because of New York City. Oh yeah, because of Tulsa. Oh yeah, because of Cleveland. Oh yeah, because of ... W.T.F.???????? HOW MANY incidents of the same ridiculous, incomprehensible, and murderous police overkill have there been since Michael Brown was killed? HOW MANY? And repeatedly. And nothing's learned. NOTHING is learned. The police get a free pass, and more victims are brutalized. And then the police get another free pass. And hey, kids! Get ready for the NEXT round! Because the only thing the civilian population can reasonably expect and count on in the future - is that there will be more brutality. And that the police will just continue on their merry way with impunity. There will be no consequences, no example made, no justice, no checking of bad behavior. Hell, I'D be furious too!!! Screw that - I AM furious!!!!

This shit is just gonna keep happening. More unarmed black men will be killed. More unarmed black teens will be hauled off to jail and appear in court the next morning in leg-irons - for doing very little and in some cases just being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Well, congratulations, young man. You've got your first offense on record now. You just had your "coming out party" like some bizarro debutante, presented to society as a young criminal. You've just begun that merry journey down the sewer pipe to Hell. W. T. F. ???????????

I've written here before about that aspect of human nature that I've noticed through the years - people are LOATHE to admit they were wrong. Nobody wants to admit they were wrong. It's like we can't do that anymore! We don't DARE do that anymore! For Pete's sake, what would it do to our precious self-esteem? As a nation, I think it means that damned accursed "American Exceptionalism." As a people, it means the refusal to move forward and recognize we live in a different era and we can't just rewrite history to pretend that the shit in the past didn't exist or somehow was somebody else's fault. We see it in the climate change deniers. We see it in those wishing to turn the clock back on marriage and on women's rights, on civil rights in general, on VOTING rights!!! The right to VOTE!!!!!!!

THIS is what has to stop. Before any of this other stuff can stop.

Profound. Octafish Apr 2015 #1
So true AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #2
A very powerful statement. We hire the police, we pay their wages to keep the peace. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #3
"You fire on us, we will fire you." Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #22
This is exactly the wrong thing to do. Our slogan should be, "You work for us, so stop brutalizing rhett o rick Apr 2015 #24
"Fire" as in make you lose your job. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #26
Ohh. "Never mind". I jumped to the wrong conclusion based on your name. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #27
LOL ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #28
There is a spot for you.. bvar22 Apr 2015 #35
What the fuck are talking about? Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #38
Mea Culpa. bvar22 Apr 2015 #39
Ah, no worries. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #41
They're paid to protect the wealthy. That's the truth. nt valerief Apr 2015 #29
True. But we can effect that if we put pressure on our local politicians and police chiefs. nm rhett o rick Apr 2015 #33
Not if they're selected by the wealthy. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #43
Chills madokie Apr 2015 #4
wow Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #5
K&R! Segami Apr 2015 #6
That is a GREAT piece of writing. nt hifiguy Apr 2015 #7
... any more than a forest fire can be "correct" or "wise." Martin Eden Apr 2015 #8
Freaking perfect malaise Apr 2015 #9
I like the first part a lot, especially the point about the hypocrisy of the reps of the state Vattel Apr 2015 #10
Well said Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #11
Yeah panader0 Apr 2015 #12
!! Jack Rabbit Apr 2015 #13
i support this Duppers Apr 2015 #14
Bravo! salin Apr 2015 #15
Ofc. Menendez (sp?) will just get a job with another PD. n/t truth2power Apr 2015 #37
"When nonviolence begins halfway through the war with the aggressor calling time out, GoneFishin Apr 2015 #16
That Was Beautifully Stated... And Exactly Correct. WillyT Apr 2015 #17
Amen. Hiraeth Apr 2015 #18
Profound. 99Forever Apr 2015 #19
G'Night... WillyT Apr 2015 #20
This reminds me of the "relatively" calm periods ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #21
Here's the problem I have.... Adrahil Apr 2015 #23
98% of the black community in Baltimore would agree that looting and destructive rioting Enthusiast Apr 2015 #25
I agree with that... I was responding to the article in question. n/t Adrahil Apr 2015 #30
I don't condone it either. We've seen it in the rise of the teabaggers. Acting out. calimary Apr 2015 #31
KnR Hekate Apr 2015 #32
Doesn't make sense to me, either. raven mad Apr 2015 #34
Well said. blackspade Apr 2015 #36
DURec. bvar22 Apr 2015 #40
This needs tobe (violently) rammed down the throat of daredtowork Apr 2015 #42
No shit huh K&R n/t whatchamacallit Apr 2015 #44
K&R! marym625 Apr 2015 #45
Last Kick From Me... As I Watch Baltimore Tonight... WillyT Apr 2015 #46
One More... WillyT May 2015 #47
And A Last... WillyT May 2015 #48
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