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calimary

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420. Well, I'm wondering if maybe we defeat the whole "thug" thing by spreading it around.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:31 PM
Apr 2015

Using it to refer to the cops and this maddening trend of ridiculous, obscene overkill. Their behavior that I have seen in these videos - certainly qualifies them to be called thugs. If it's used to refer to the police as well, then maybe that might blunt the immediate attempt to focus its reference directly toward African American males. Call it what it is. These police "officers" are THUGS. I think they've earned that description, openly and on the record. Theirs is very clearly thuggish behavior - from what we've seen.

Some officer driving a police wagon and deliberately slamming on the brakes or taking curves or turns recklessly, so the person in custody in the back, who's also restrained, cuffed, ankle-shackled, CANNOT brace themselves OR grab for something to steady themselves in a wild ride, especially if it's deliberate and extreme - IS BEING A THUG.

I think we have to take back that word, too. The way we've had to start taking back the word "Liberal." The way we've had to start taking back the word "Feminist." Let's be accurate. A thug is an overzealous white cop, too - as the videos prove.

Thug is the new Nigg**!! [View all] bravenak Apr 2015 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2015 #1
Yep. Sorry about that. I think we're clever enough to come up with a poot centric term. bravenak Apr 2015 #2
nah, poster is being disingenuous notadmblnd Apr 2015 #27
Oh yes. bravenak Apr 2015 #33
I've been a Union "THUG" since I could work. bvar22 Apr 2015 #335
Um? bravenak Apr 2015 #344
I still have the t-shirt shaayecanaan May 2015 #492
I'm "white," too, and I have NEVER heard a white anything call another white anything that word. Judi Lynn May 2015 #534
I'm not going to argue with you about it notadmblnd May 2015 #535
"Goon" seems pretty apt for Rooty-Poot. hifiguy Apr 2015 #238
The Pooper Jack Rabbit Apr 2015 #255
"asshole" works for me. Cha Apr 2015 #457
I will have to correct you only on ONE detail nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #3
True! bravenak Apr 2015 #5
and white. 840high Apr 2015 #75
Unfortunately, true. calimary Apr 2015 #225
Read this nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #239
but... hopemountain Apr 2015 #466
Agreed. Richard Sherman said so, too. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #4
Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #6
What ever. bravenak Apr 2015 #12
What about the black people that agree with me ? NM_Birder Apr 2015 #45
Black people that agree that you can call black kids thugs as a white dude are simply wrong. bravenak Apr 2015 #55
I don't call anybody nigg*r, because that is a racist label. NM_Birder Apr 2015 #69
Thug is racist. bravenak Apr 2015 #72
Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #81
You like being wrong. bravenak Apr 2015 #82
If I ever am, I'll let you know. NM_Birder Apr 2015 #93
If you ever are? Hee hee! bravenak Apr 2015 #97
really / here is where you call me "pale face" if you don't think it's racist. NM_Birder Apr 2015 #106
I never called YOU, anything. bravenak Apr 2015 #111
I am SO sorry you have to deal with that crap NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #122
Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #128
I wish you would stop taunting one of the most respected members of this community. Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #166
.. Cha Apr 2015 #461
Ha!!! bravenak Apr 2015 #463
question heaven05 Apr 2015 #152
LMAO, marym625 Apr 2015 #177
back atcha heaven05 Apr 2015 #223
I just love you! marym625 Apr 2015 #227
You're the one that keeps bringing up pale face. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #240
The term "thug" may not have began as a racist term but the RW nc4bo Apr 2015 #103
wow mythology Apr 2015 #84
I thought I fixed you up nice and tight yesterday. bravenak Apr 2015 #88
Lol~ sheshe2 Apr 2015 #362
Hey! bravenak Apr 2015 #363
Yes you do~ sheshe2 Apr 2015 #369
I do what I can... bravenak Apr 2015 #371
Read.... Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #245
^ BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2015 #296
excellent read heaven05 Apr 2015 #383
Of course it's meant as an isult melman Apr 2015 #367
To me, "thug" has the same dog-whistle effect as "states' rights" or other innocuous terms. alp227 Apr 2015 #315
Yes. Thank you for this. bravenak Apr 2015 #318
I'm amazed that even on DU, people are playing the "buttwhuddabout" game to excuse using racist shit Scootaloo Apr 2015 #424
It happens everytime. bravenak Apr 2015 #425
what???????? heaven05 Apr 2015 #141
What black people agree with you? Bjorn Against Apr 2015 #59
No, President Obama, and the Baltimore mayor used THUG, to describe NM_Birder Apr 2015 #73
And the mayor of Baltimore has apologized BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #87
Here is a hint from covering politicians nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #96
"THUG" has been used to describe NM_Birder Apr 2015 #118
Language evolves nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #211
Well, I'm wondering if maybe we defeat the whole "thug" thing by spreading it around. calimary Apr 2015 #420
People have tried, but the term has taken hold nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #422
clueless heaven05 Apr 2015 #158
Obama used it the first day, then he was obviously advised that it was wrong to do NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #129
Seems he is sticking with it... Oktober Apr 2015 #205
Are you sure? marym625 Apr 2015 #221
Wow, I am SHOCKED that was hidden at all, let alone 6-1 PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #51
Me too. I had hoped they would revise it a bit. bravenak Apr 2015 #57
Note it and start using it JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #52
This is crazy. If I were sensitive at all as a black woman, I'd probably be dead. bravenak Apr 2015 #58
I know JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #110
I just cannot even understand... bravenak Apr 2015 #117
Quick - JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #138
No shit, girl!! bravenak Apr 2015 #145
I laughed so hard heaven05 Apr 2015 #167
I know, he's crazy right. bravenak Apr 2015 #172
It is so funny when you think of it, over sensitive, coming from what I assume is a white NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #149
There are not even enough marshmellows in the world. nt nc4bo Apr 2015 #161
uhm? marym625 Apr 2015 #292
Hee hee!! bravenak Apr 2015 #299
why yes, yes we do heaven05 Apr 2015 #130
Hell, I'm not Black and I picked up on the obviousness of it long ago. ieoeja Apr 2015 #319
Absolutely. bravenak Apr 2015 #321
Thank you. n/t ieoeja Apr 2015 #330
no what bravenak said is true rbrnmw Apr 2015 #13
Your post is so incredibly RUDE BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #14
Jfc, Google "thug is the new n word", there are a lot of people who feel that way. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #17
"Over-sensitive head"? Really? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #18
You should get out more nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #23
Have your parents ever had the basement checked for mold? notadmblnd Apr 2015 #38
oy veh cyberswede Apr 2015 #40
Okay so what term should we use... NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #7
Looters BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #15
Looters are looters, burners are arsonists, and rioters are 'celebrants'. bravenak Apr 2015 #16
They are going to use the term that makes them feel better. NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #213
They just feel so righteous and comfortable. bravenak Apr 2015 #218
Our job...friend NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #312
High five! bravenak Apr 2015 #316
Obama just made that all the more difficult frylock Apr 2015 #407
He's just wrong. That's all. bravenak Apr 2015 #408
I would hope so frylock Apr 2015 #411
. bravenak Apr 2015 #413
I think Nadin made the excellent observation that politicians nc4bo Apr 2015 #412
I think that it's a valid point.. frylock Apr 2015 #416
Thieves, arsonists, and rioters.... LanternWaste Apr 2015 #21
Until we are informed treestar Apr 2015 #184
We don't live in a f---ing vacuum, though. How hard is it to understand that? F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #195
I never watch Fox News treestar Apr 2015 #209
Then educate yourself. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #214
People tell me plainly and I meekly accept? treestar Apr 2015 #224
Back in be real world nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #261
The same thing you call white people who loot, burn, and riot when their sports team loses. TekGryphon Apr 2015 #25
+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #31
Has a white person never ever been referred to in this way? treestar Apr 2015 #104
Oh, yes -- it is, and was for many years, used to refer to members of the Mafia and Nay Apr 2015 #143
+1 well said. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #159
People who are already racist might be using it as a substitute treestar Apr 2015 #173
Then call them criminals. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #182
The dictionary uses the word criminal to define "thug" treestar Apr 2015 #203
I'm done trying to talk to you about this. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #222
that was unjustified treestar Apr 2015 #230
No, you are trying to assert the neologism nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #272
You keep throwing this word around that TM99 Apr 2015 #378
It also stands for a new use of a word nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #393
Playing, hardly. TM99 Apr 2015 #426
Yup and gay still means happy nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #430
The word gay has evolved over a longer period of time TM99 Apr 2015 #432
Of course it has, language evolves nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #442
This message was self-deleted by its author Petrushka May 2015 #490
As Arnold Horshack might say, waving his hand in class, "Ooh! Ooh!" Petrushka May 2015 #497
Thank you for trying. LeftOfWest Apr 2015 #234
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2015 #287
Where have you been all of my life? JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #358
Looters, Arsonists and Rioters, ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #28
Right. cyberswede Apr 2015 #42
Or, perhaps, passive permission ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #53
I don't think I need your permission to use anything. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #56
LOL. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #71
The anger is seething, you can feel it. This is actually a good reflection of what we are dealing NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #137
LOL. Yes, it is and Yes you can ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #156
This is it, right here. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #186
Scalia came right out and said that as to gay marriage the other day, he sincerely wanted NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #198
I really hope so. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #217
and you heaven05 Apr 2015 #175
Gee, thanks for letting me know that. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #180
+1 Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #190
Criminals. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #46
Okay, so what do you call them? Bobbie Jo Apr 2015 #83
As someone suggested, criminals works well. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #86
What is the price of air these days? stone space Apr 2015 #107
Actually Bobbie Jo Apr 2015 #124
Cool. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #134
Crystal. nt Bobbie Jo Apr 2015 #169
Every one of those terms is horrible. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #150
MLK used the term NOLALady Apr 2015 #356
"The Baltimore Resistance" - nt KingCharlemagne May 2015 #479
Criminals AgingAmerican May 2015 #511
You Are Correct HassleCat Apr 2015 #8
Yep. People are using the President for cover right now. bravenak Apr 2015 #30
What about ReTHUGs? malaise Apr 2015 #9
That's perfect. bravenak Apr 2015 #19
Malaise, after Richard Sherman's presser last year, I stopped using it... countryjake Apr 2015 #317
Disparaging names C_U_L8R Apr 2015 #10
Remember the DU discussion wherein ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #11
Exactly. bravenak Apr 2015 #24
This 60 year old white woman agrees with you SalviaBlue Apr 2015 #89
You love him too? bravenak Apr 2015 #94
Yes - He is... SalviaBlue Apr 2015 #132
Were Paul Robeson alive today, I have little doubt that he would be called the "T-" word. Robeson KingCharlemagne May 2015 #480
Thank you, I'll look it up. bravenak May 2015 #491
Rec this post a million times BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #20
Surprise!!! bravenak Apr 2015 #44
I was the one to alert on the above post BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #79
I noticed that one yesterday. bravenak Apr 2015 #85
Yes, they used it for Michael Brown and Trayvon BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #92
To me, thug should be reserved for the powerful. bravenak Apr 2015 #105
You are killing it BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #125
Here is a group of sweethearts nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #278
Yeah. bravenak Apr 2015 #281
Ah yes nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #283
Maybe we could use hooligans? Texasgal Apr 2015 #22
Just remember, hooligans is also charged nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #26
From wiki: Texasgal Apr 2015 #35
And wiki is not giving you the class undertones nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2015 #29
The rose that grew in concrete. Tupac. Read that one. bravenak Apr 2015 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2015 #48
Yep. One of my favorite poets. bravenak Apr 2015 #66
He went to Tamalpais High School in Marin County XemaSab Apr 2015 #460
A black Rose. bravenak Apr 2015 #462
I'm equal opportunity Snow Leopard Apr 2015 #32
. bravenak Apr 2015 #39
The bullets a blind person fires are also equal opportunity, but their impact may differ, depending jtuck004 Apr 2015 #256
damn.. frylock Apr 2015 #409
True... tridim Apr 2015 #34
They love feeling clever. bravenak Apr 2015 #41
. BKH70041 Apr 2015 #36
I never realized thug had a color Politicalboi Apr 2015 #43
Welp, now you have been informed. bravenak Apr 2015 #47
+1000 n/t 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #63
Sorry you feel that way Snow Leopard Apr 2015 #68
You can stop using it now. bravenak Apr 2015 #74
"Etymology bro." is an instant classic BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #114
Do it!!! bravenak Apr 2015 #119
+1 frylock Apr 2015 #410
President Obama has not been informed treestar Apr 2015 #215
When Tricky Dick and Spiro Agnew used to complain about the "Eastern KingCharlemagne May 2015 #482
It didn't use to, but usage changes gollygee Apr 2015 #192
Hmm, no. linuxman Apr 2015 #50
I was informing you. bravenak Apr 2015 #64
Hardly. linuxman Apr 2015 #77
Racism is not rational. Thug is racist. bravenak Apr 2015 #164
I will continue to use it when it applies, as well. hamsterjill Apr 2015 #155
Oh you know heaven05 Apr 2015 #181
..that's not applied equally as explained but continue to ignore that fact. uponit7771 Apr 2015 #288
I strongly admired your op from yesterday, for those that missed it, please read it.. AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #54
That one was so good I had to put it in my journal so I won't forget it. bravenak Apr 2015 #61
It has been for some time Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #60
My Man!! bravenak Apr 2015 #62
Was going to post about this yesterday but fell asleep F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #65
I was sad to see it too. bravenak Apr 2015 #67
I don't fully agree with that statement. Beacool Apr 2015 #70
Thank you for common sense. 840high Apr 2015 #76
I just don't agree with justifying criminal behavior. Beacool Apr 2015 #102
You don't need to justify. bravenak Apr 2015 #135
I don't think that a blank statement should be made about all these kids. Beacool Apr 2015 #170
Do it then. bravenak Apr 2015 #188
My biggest problem with O'Malley is exactly that. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #210
No problem. It's the first thing I look for bravenak Apr 2015 #220
Yeah really. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #243
This won't get to me. bravenak Apr 2015 #250
O'Malley did that? Beacool Apr 2015 #229
Yes. He did. bravenak Apr 2015 #233
I'm glad that you were able to get out. Beacool Apr 2015 #264
The community is broken. bravenak Apr 2015 #271
It would behoove you chervilant Apr 2015 #354
A point and a question... tjl148 Apr 2015 #458
Calhoun's seminal study (mid 60s) chervilant May 2015 #473
Thanks, tjl148 May 2015 #540
Well, since you are a teacher, then what's your solution? Beacool Apr 2015 #469
You will agree with me soon enough. bravenak Apr 2015 #80
Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #123
& you seem to live in a world surrounded by white lillies. giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #226
I'm interested in making peace. Goodbye. 840high Apr 2015 #277
Yeah, I could tell by the bullshit you said to B. giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #290
do accusations of shit stirring go a long way toward making peace? frylock Apr 2015 #414
In the real world it's 840high Apr 2015 #427
f'sho frylock Apr 2015 #431
Well, here on DU Bobbie Jo May 2015 #517
You're one to talk! bravenak Apr 2015 #284
Don't worry B, I had your back with that one. giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #293
That one think's we can't see what it's up to. bravenak Apr 2015 #301
Well they continue to show their true colors more & more giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #307
Don't like people disagreeing with you? 840high Apr 2015 #322
I love it. bravenak Apr 2015 #324
Perfect response. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #147
I get what you are saying, but why give the cops and the racists more fodder? Beacool Apr 2015 #154
Cops and racist do it regardless. bravenak Apr 2015 #297
oh no heaven05 Apr 2015 #194
I believe the nursing home fire was the one started by the police. ieoeja Apr 2015 #329
Just because you say it don't make it true derby378 Apr 2015 #78
You'll look like a racist if you run around calling our black children thugs. bravenak Apr 2015 #90
Because YOU say so? derby378 Apr 2015 #99
Yep. I just told you to inform you how you will look. bravenak Apr 2015 #108
Aaaaand you've just made the classic conservative mistake... derby378 Apr 2015 #126
The classic conservative mistake was to think blacks were too stupid to understand dog whistles. bravenak Apr 2015 #142
There are a bunch of People of Color on this thread saying the same thing BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #151
If you're going to let some racist teabagger keyboard jockey define your vocabulary... derby378 Apr 2015 #183
Or are Obama and I both wrong on this matter? BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #196
"racist teabagger keyboard jockey" LeftOfWest Apr 2015 #232
if you want to use code words that racist teabagger keyboard jockeys use.. frylock Apr 2015 #415
Add to that tally one white person (me) and a few others. It's so shameful and KingCharlemagne May 2015 #483
Yeah, people are clinging to a damn word BrotherIvan May 2015 #485
I actually suspect use of the word 'thug' to describe urban black males precedes KingCharlemagne May 2015 #487
You could be right BrotherIvan May 2015 #489
Not about PC. It is about how the word has been used by rw hate media (fox, Rush, etc.) salin Apr 2015 #254
you've got your nerve heaven05 Apr 2015 #202
Thug AlbertCat Apr 2015 #91
Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #95
One has to be deliberately obtuse not to recognize that "thug" is being used by the media Maedhros Apr 2015 #98
It is by the media Go Vols Apr 2015 #112
And ponder what 'deliberately obtuse' actually means. It ain't pretty. - nt KingCharlemagne May 2015 #484
Those people have always been with us. Maedhros May 2015 #531
After reading this thread I think you are trying to force us treestar Apr 2015 #100
I'm just telling you what it looks like. bravenak Apr 2015 #247
what are you saying???? heaven05 Apr 2015 #405
I naturally tend to push back when presented with a statement treestar May 2015 #478
Well "badly stated" or not heaven05 May 2015 #501
Obama stands by the term 'thugs,' White House says Freddie Stubbs Apr 2015 #101
You do everything black people do? bravenak Apr 2015 #148
Yes, "Thug" is the politically tolerated way to say Nigg**. Half-Century Man Apr 2015 #109
Well, we know that the REAL atrocity is expecting white people to slighly alter their vocabularies. Maedhros Apr 2015 #116
God, ain't that the truth. +1 nt F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #133
would you call a black man "boy", or would you slightly alter your vocabulary? frylock Apr 2015 #423
That is so sad. - nt KingCharlemagne May 2015 #486
Yep, true!!!!! heaven05 Apr 2015 #113
I will respond to you by copy/paste a comment from a person I know and love who is AfAm NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #115
I've always used that word to describe cops arikara Apr 2015 #120
Guess you better tell President Obama. He says they're thugs and standing by it riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #121
Some people heaven05 Apr 2015 #212
Can we call white people thugs, or is that off limits too? B2G Apr 2015 #127
Save it for people with positions of power is my suggestion. bravenak Apr 2015 #370
New? Iggo Apr 2015 #131
Unrec for BS - I call my grandsons 840high Apr 2015 #136
Rerec cause I'm right, regardless of what YOU call your grandsons. bravenak Apr 2015 #157
Rerec cause I'm right F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #249
I see you figured it out. bravenak Apr 2015 #253
Ok - that is just silly. jonno99 Apr 2015 #380
No. Imma do it my way. If it makesthem uncomfortable to be labeled - GOOD! bravenak Apr 2015 #381
The problem is that you risk needlessly alienating those jonno99 Apr 2015 #388
Not really. bravenak Apr 2015 #394
Not true. I can't imagine that everyone in your immediate circle jonno99 Apr 2015 #400
They can disagree. bravenak Apr 2015 #402
Rerec for you living in a bubble & never having to have giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #437
LOL, the black female mayor used it! She grew up there. Get it? nt Logical Apr 2015 #139
Hey, smartypants, she apologized for calling them that. Get it?!? bravenak Apr 2015 #168
Only because of whiners. Most people dont associate it with a color.... Logical Apr 2015 #174
Yes. Black people (me in particular)are whiners, you are made of tougher stuff. bravenak Apr 2015 #265
Sounds like you need to take up this argument with this guy...... Logical Apr 2015 #337
And apologized, but, you know... nt F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #171
I don't think so ann--- Apr 2015 #140
The Unheard. NOLALady Apr 2015 #406
Rioters, looters, vandals = Thugs VScott Apr 2015 #144
Exactly gopiscrap Apr 2015 #146
So, now we have another word we've been using for years that... TreasonousBastard Apr 2015 #153
Sorry. Like I said above. Etymology, Bro. bravenak Apr 2015 #163
You can post this a million timws 840high Apr 2015 #325
I could never be as wrong as you. bravenak Apr 2015 #327
Hardly new - packman Apr 2015 #160
Baloney. I've been calling the white cops thugs forever. Vinca Apr 2015 #162
Does calling them thugs make you feel better about yourself? bravenak Apr 2015 #193
It doesn't make me feel one way or another. Vinca Apr 2015 #216
It gets used as a racial slur. So, yes, it gets construed as a racial slur. bravenak Apr 2015 #391
So please. Tell me what I'm supposed to call people who commit arson and loot. Vinca May 2015 #493
"All pale faced"? bluesbassman Apr 2015 #165
It's damned amazing what is allowed to pass Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #187
Why would "pale face" apply to people from Hong Kong? ieoeja Apr 2015 #334
Why are you claiming I denied that? bluesbassman Apr 2015 #338
Dude - you got 150 replies JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #176
Some people REALLY don't like me. bravenak Apr 2015 #197
Do you know how many threads go in the trash JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #208
Uh oh. bravenak Apr 2015 #267
White ppl hate it when you call them out on their dog whistles. giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #440
Don't forget the term 'criminal thug' BklnDem75 Apr 2015 #178
We don't need no stinking trials. bravenak Apr 2015 #200
I hafta disagree and will continue to call out thugs as I see em... Oktober Apr 2015 #179
Do what you gotta do. And we will call you names like racist. bravenak Apr 2015 #280
Which 'we' do you claim to speak for? Oktober Apr 2015 #294
Look around the thread. bravenak Apr 2015 #298
Does that mean I get the ones who disagree...? Oktober Apr 2015 #304
You can have all the racists and people who value calling young black men thugs more than they bravenak Apr 2015 #306
That means I get Obama... Oktober Apr 2015 #342
I'm good with that too. bravenak Apr 2015 #343
I've never heard the "N" word routinely used for any other race, but.......... George II Apr 2015 #185
Anyone that perpetrates violence and/or vandalism is a thug to me. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #189
Fine with me. Call my kids thugs i'll call you racist. To your face. bravenak Apr 2015 #206
I'm guessing your kids don't hurt people and break orher peoples' stuff. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #231
One is autistic and very strong like her father. bravenak Apr 2015 #237
Fair enough. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #241
Why no respect for the rest of black parents, then? nt F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #266
. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #361
Thank you. bravenak Apr 2015 #274
It is so obvious that it makes the "obtuseness" of some sickening. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #191
+1 F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #268
It absolutely is. Marr Apr 2015 #199
You're right gollygee Apr 2015 #201
Thank you. bravenak Apr 2015 #207
Kick. Recommended. Outstanding. LeftOfWest Apr 2015 #204
see what you started heaven05 Apr 2015 #219
I wish I didn't have to do it. bravenak Apr 2015 #263
bravo and bravo again heaven05 Apr 2015 #346
I'm trying to get my money up so I can get out of here too. bravenak Apr 2015 #350
yep you nailed it as always! nt steve2470 Apr 2015 #228
Let's see if I got all of the arguments down Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #235
Perfect. bravenak Apr 2015 #259
I agree. The folks who used it with Trayvon Martin were clearly insensitive bigots,rising the new Hoyt Apr 2015 #236
bravnak, I wrote the same thing in an OP, back on December 1 cali Apr 2015 #242
Sad that this has to be said over and over and over. bravenak Apr 2015 #258
maddening. and the defense can be proven to be bullshit cali Apr 2015 #262
My kinda post. Thanks. nt F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #276
Agree abelenkpe Apr 2015 #244
You nailed it, bravenak mike dub Apr 2015 #246
I see that all the time. bravenak Apr 2015 #417
I use Thug for anyone who uses intimidation and violence to get their way. OnlinePoker Apr 2015 #248
This post sounds just like my grandmother... ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #252
What a crock The Green Manalishi Apr 2015 #251
I swear I should do an op on ETYMOLOGY. bravenak Apr 2015 #257
I wouldn't use it to describe ANYONE who didn't deserve the description. The Green Manalishi Apr 2015 #269
The dictionary lags behind common usage as you know. bravenak Apr 2015 #273
Maybe I will, maybe not The Green Manalishi Apr 2015 #285
You will see that I'm right and be pleased that you dropped the word. bravenak Apr 2015 #328
Just on principle, it's a toss The Green Manalishi Apr 2015 #357
I never said not to use the word. Just that if you do, the word 'racist' will be applied to you in bravenak Apr 2015 #359
Call me a racist if it makes you feel better. The Green Manalishi Apr 2015 #377
I said if you sit around calling young black kids thugs, I'd call you racist. bravenak Apr 2015 #379
If you use *THAT* definition, and not a blanket one The Green Manalishi Apr 2015 #390
Cool. Glad we agree. bravenak Apr 2015 #392
The Etymology of the word "Thug" is interesting. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #481
Agreed Jack Rabbit Apr 2015 #260
It flashes in my brain when I see a picture of Ted Cruz or Huckabee The Green Manalishi Apr 2015 #289
For Cruz, Jack Rabbit Apr 2015 #349
What's a "crock" is to think the term is applied evenly... it's not... that's a fact not in dispute uponit7771 Apr 2015 #295
I disagree. Thugs come in all colors. Aryan Brotherhood are Thugs. SaveOurDemocracy Apr 2015 #270
Thus gets used on black kids way more than the Aryan brotherhood. bravenak Apr 2015 #275
Google 2008-2011. Bill Clinton 1st used the term "Chicago thug" in describing O's politics nc4bo Apr 2015 #279
Good find. bravenak Apr 2015 #282
I hear you and agree. m-lekktor Apr 2015 #286
hey brave! i stopped posting for awhile but i do check in to see what is being discussed. locdlib Apr 2015 #291
It is pretty funny to me. bravenak Apr 2015 #305
Set the record stright BrainMann1 Apr 2015 #300
Thank you for letting us know. bravenak Apr 2015 #302
You aren't going to convince many people... MellowDem Apr 2015 #303
I'm not trying to be persuasive. bravenak Apr 2015 #314
Is Obama a racist? MellowDem Apr 2015 #333
No. Obama is just wrong and will come over my way on this issue. bravenak Apr 2015 #375
I think you're right and Obama is wrong... MellowDem Apr 2015 #445
Okay. I can understand your point. bravenak Apr 2015 #446
It's not new...... yourout Apr 2015 #308
I use the term thug all the time to refer to Klansmen, Mobsters and Neo-Nazis. bluestateguy Apr 2015 #309
The whole co-opting of words is driving me nuts. Vinca Apr 2015 #313
Yup alcibiades_mystery Apr 2015 #310
DUers used it about Oscar Grant during the Meserle trial. That's when I started seeing the coded Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #311
Thank you. bravenak Apr 2015 #320
"thug" is also used in the phrase "union thugs" by many on the right. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #323
Wow. bravenak Apr 2015 #326
Yes, Canadian. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #336
No, it's not dumbcat Apr 2015 #331
Enjoy your dictionary and hiding behind the President. bravenak Apr 2015 #352
I will, thank you dumbcat Apr 2015 #355
Cool. Just make sure you call them thugs to their faces. bravenak Apr 2015 #360
That was a good response JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #366
Yes, they do, don't they. They always get away with it. bravenak Apr 2015 #374
We were wrong - I'm wrong JustAnotherGen May 2015 #504
Thank God we were wrong about that. bravenak May 2015 #507
I have nothing to add. johnp3907 Apr 2015 #332
Hey! bravenak Apr 2015 #351
I find it somewhat difficult to take such a word out of context Wash. state Desk Jet Apr 2015 #339
I can't even believe I'm jumping into this fray, but here goes. Butterbean Apr 2015 #340
Thank you so much. bravenak Apr 2015 #376
OK, please let me clarify The Green Manalishi Apr 2015 #385
Yes. That's exactly it. Butterbean Apr 2015 #421
Disagree. See: butt hurt. Prism Apr 2015 #341
I agree with you, Bravenak Oilwellian Apr 2015 #345
Thank you. bravenak Apr 2015 #347
yw Oilwellian Apr 2015 #401
This message was self-deleted by its author Marr Apr 2015 #348
You assume dumbcat Apr 2015 #353
Durn... chervilant Apr 2015 #364
I know. I don't even bother ignoring anybody. bravenak Apr 2015 #365
True, that. chervilant Apr 2015 #368
You're doing the right thing, imo. bravenak Apr 2015 #373
K&R Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #372
you must be protecting those thugs in Baltimore backwoodsbob Apr 2015 #382
Are you being a racist by doing exactly the opposite of what you should do? bravenak Apr 2015 #384
Post removed Post removed May 2015 #514
I just asked you to not call black people thugs. Are you okay? You need more explainations? bravenak May 2015 #516
Pale face? Seriously? Pale face? marym625 Apr 2015 #386
I was harsh. bravenak Apr 2015 #387
Why is it ok GummyBearz Apr 2015 #389
Because I got alerted on once for spelling it out. bravenak Apr 2015 #395
That doesn't answer my question GummyBearz Apr 2015 #449
You got the answer you were going to get. bravenak Apr 2015 #451
The answer I got was GummyBearz Apr 2015 #459
No. I don't think it's okay for white folks to sit around calling our youth thugs. bravenak Apr 2015 #464
White folk Snow Leopard May 2015 #505
White folks is only racist if black folks is racist. I think white folks were wrong and still are. bravenak May 2015 #508
When I think of "thug", I think of white bandits with fat and shaved heads. n/t Lil Missy Apr 2015 #396
I think of cops. bravenak Apr 2015 #397
imagine, if you dare nc4bo Apr 2015 #398
The rending of garments and gnashing of teeth would be epic. bravenak Apr 2015 #404
I see! So for you, it does refer to Caucasions too. Lil Missy Apr 2015 #399
Black cops too. Hell, any cop. bravenak Apr 2015 #403
then Thug is now the word for the poor and disenfranchised.. 1handclapn Apr 2015 #418
Pretty much. I only see poor, hungry tired white folks get called thug so nasty style. bravenak Apr 2015 #419
Thug used to mean Union Member. OnyxCollie Apr 2015 #428
We have a whole reTHUGlican party full of thugs IronLionZion Apr 2015 #429
Ok. I was just informing about the changes the word has gone through recently. bravenak Apr 2015 #438
The media code words are soooooo blatant. They never stop serving their billionaire masters valerief Apr 2015 #433
Yep. I liked Erin Burnett getting it handed to her yesterday. bravenak Apr 2015 #434
She's a despicable POS. A taint on humanity. nt valerief Apr 2015 #465
I'd say CullenBohannon Apr 2015 #435
Good for you. Say it to their face. bravenak Apr 2015 #436
Why? CullenBohannon Apr 2015 #448
Exactly. You can call names from afar, while safe. bravenak Apr 2015 #450
I was originally going to ask ManiacJoe Apr 2015 #439
Then why did you come? Do as you please and I'll call you as I see you. bravenak Apr 2015 #441
Did you post your response to the correct message? ManiacJoe Apr 2015 #443
I was using the generic you. bravenak Apr 2015 #444
OK, I guess. ManiacJoe Apr 2015 #447
The term "thug" has sus453 Apr 2015 #452
Tell your Council man thank you!!! bravenak Apr 2015 #453
I thought these were thugs! backscatter712 Apr 2015 #454
No. These are thugs. bravenak Apr 2015 #455
Life is the beginning of death seveneyes Apr 2015 #456
Every time someone says, "thug" the word smiths are smiling. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #467
Lol!!! bravenak May 2015 #472
Yeah,...it's smelly money. It comes from assholes. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #477
I cannot abide racism. It hurts. raven mad Apr 2015 #468
I agree. bravenak May 2015 #476
I tell white people they should encourage rights for EVERYONE.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #488
My dad got that before I was born. raven mad May 2015 #538
Agreed. egduj May 2015 #470
so which of the two applies to PBO . . . or both? DrDan May 2015 #532
It's easy to avoid using the word on DU when folks call it out as a common bigoted slur. U4ikLefty May 2015 #471
Don't worry, our American racism will always enable new terms for racial division Suji to Seoul May 2015 #474
So true. bravenak May 2015 #475
Great OP. GeorgeGist May 2015 #494
" . . . . those were thuggish acts" . . . . nuff said DrDan May 2015 #495
Omg. Where did YOUR authority come from. I told you what you will look like. Not what to do. bravenak May 2015 #525
President Obama referred to some in Baltimore fadedrose May 2015 #496
From a black man, it means thug. From the media and white society it means something else. bravenak May 2015 #524
I thought a thug was anybody fadedrose May 2015 #533
Well... JackInGreen May 2015 #498
Please keep your thug life tees and your thuggish ruggish bone poster. bravenak May 2015 #526
President Obama called the hooligans criminals and thugs Harmony Blue May 2015 #499
K&R! stonecutter357 May 2015 #500
I used the word "thug" recently to describe some rioters in Baltimore. Vattel May 2015 #502
Thank you Vattel!!! bravenak May 2015 #519
I still use the word thug...But.... blackspade May 2015 #503
I agree with your usage. bravenak May 2015 #515
Thanks, And I completely understand where you are coming from. blackspade May 2015 #522
You got it right!! bravenak May 2015 #523
It is. They actually charged these assholes! blackspade May 2015 #527
Whoo!! It looks like a wake on Fox News! bravenak May 2015 #528
Their sadz has overcome them... blackspade May 2015 #529
Yes, I've noticed that too. It's Con dog whistle since Damansarajaya May 2015 #506
Thought you might appreciate this... chervilant May 2015 #509
Thank you! bravenak May 2015 #510
Yes, and I have been reading about how much those chervilant May 2015 #512
They need to never get out. bravenak May 2015 #513
Indeed!!! chervilant May 2015 #518
Also, I was just watching Kwame Rose chervilant May 2015 #520
That's the only way to turn the tide. bravenak May 2015 #521
There are few "journalists" chervilant May 2015 #539
This white guy agrees. JoePhilly May 2015 #530
I agree with this post d_legendary1 May 2015 #536
I remember that. I was so pissed off all the time. bravenak May 2015 #537
I have heard it used for some kids in yuiyoshida May 2015 #541
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