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Hoyt

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5. What about workers in foreign countries that would benefit from investment there?

Fri May 1, 2015, 06:15 AM

May 2015

My granddad stayed on his little dirt farm -- unlike so many who left to go work for Ford and other emerging big corporations -- but he still benefited from the better wages those companies paid, compared to scratching out a living.

I think we would benefit as well.

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May Day, 2015: If you do NOT oppose the TPP, you do NOT stand with workers and unions [View all] cali May 2015 OP

! KG May 2015 #1

A-fucking-men! TM99 May 2015 #2

It's not that simple. The Democratic base does not want to leave NAFTA and the WTO as is. pampango May 2015 #3

It's exactly that simple. It won't fix NAFTA. cali May 2015 #4

Isn't it amazing that some here fight for something supported by corps, CEOs, and Republicans. Dawgs May 2015 #9

If a Republican becomes President and is outwardly vocal for NAFTA/Free Trade, those stillwaiting May 2015 #6

The republican base's opposition to trade agreements is long standing and will not 'flip' pampango May 2015 #20

Fine, but the reason you keep harping on that is because the forces that cali May 2015 #24

I only "harp" on it when someone says "republicans support TPP". pampango May 2015 #25

how do you account for the fact that democrats do not support free trade cali May 2015 #26

Then why do they think that TPP and TTIP are 'good ideas'? Are they not 'free trade'? pampango May 2015 #29

Found something interesting re support for ftas cali May 2015 #27

At that link it seemed to show that republican opposition to trade agreements was stronger pampango May 2015 #30

Where did you get this information from? Link would be great. stillwaiting May 2015 #35

Here is the link. I put in one post and not the other. pampango May 2015 #42

The republicans broadly support TPP. morningfog May 2015 #10

republican politicians - Yes; republicans - No. n/t pampango May 2015 #21

It is blind cheerleading for a Democratic president. Enthusiast May 2015 #17

The bases: cheerleaders vs. haters? "Long live the politicians" said the populist. "They know more pampango May 2015 #23

You have it all backwards. Enthusiast May 2015 #28

You couldn't be more wrong. Opposition to the TPP is so great that they had to postpone it a year sabrina 1 May 2015 #37

"This is really no longer 'left/right', it is Americans V Global Corporations..." pampango May 2015 #40

The title could have asked, 'which side are you on, Republicans' or Democrats': sabrina 1 May 2015 #36

Or which base are you with, republican or Democratic? It is not that simple. n/t pampango May 2015 #41

I lost your logic train. You say, "The Democratic base does not want to leave NAFTA and the WTO as rhett o rick May 2015 #63

What about workers in foreign countries that would benefit from investment there? Hoyt May 2015 #5

I was watching the Pacquiao-Mayweather coverage... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #22

Exactly, and invest in their country. But folks here are too worried about their jobs, to care. Hoyt May 2015 #33

Mexican farmers were destroyed by NAFTA and this will do even more harm. If you call NAFTA good for sabrina 1 May 2015 #47

Mexican farmers are now getting jobs with hourly wages that exceed what they made in a week before. Hoyt May 2015 #48

You just confirmed my point. NAFTA destroyed Mexico's agricultural culture. Then took advantage of sabrina 1 May 2015 #52

Reich said he still thinks NAFTA is good, should have had labor and environmental protections. Hoyt May 2015 #58

'They' meaning governments. sabrina 1 May 2015 #60

They now have the opportunity to make more in an hour than they did a week before. Hoyt May 2015 #62

Here's a pretty balanced report that concludes with -- Hoyt May 2015 #50

I am really sick of this shit BainsBane May 2015 #7

OK. I'm not telling anyone what to do. Just pointing out the obvious. cali May 2015 #8

People in the real world do not take political positions morningfog May 2015 #11

Please understand, TPP and TIPP will completely overrule the laws of this land! The secret Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #15

Kicked! ibewlu606 May 2015 #12

Here's to you on this May Day! cali May 2015 #13

Great post Cali. No to TPP. And Happy May Day! appalachiablue May 2015 #14

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast May 2015 #16

thanks for the kick, E cali May 2015 #18

We have to put this in terms people can understand d_legendary1 May 2015 #19

Tell that to German workers or Swedish or Canadian or Australian. pampango May 2015 #31

You're actually arguing that because free trade hasn't harmed workers in Germany cali May 2015 #32

No. I'm arguing that 'free trade' does not harm workers; lousy, conservative domestic policies do. pampango May 2015 #38

What do you think "free trade" agreements + "lousy, conservative domestic policies" yields? stillwaiting May 2015 #44

About the same as no "free trade agreements" + "lousy, conservative domestic policies." pampango May 2015 #49

The German People don't like Free Trade Agreements either d_legendary1 May 2015 #61

Yep. NaturalHigh May 2015 #34

i do not sit well with, .... you are 'gainst us, or fer us. mentality. seabeyond May 2015 #39

fine. but facts are facts. You cannot say you stand with unions who unequivocally oppose cali May 2015 #43

No doubt there will always be the pretense by others who claim implicit knowledge... LanternWaste May 2015 #54

I like NAFTA and I like TPP and I like international trade agreements and open borders like the EU underahedgerow May 2015 #45

thanks for the thoughtful response. cali May 2015 #46

Its all I can do to keep from falling out laughing at this. Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #53

You can laugh all you like but in the real world global trade & commerce is going to move underahedgerow May 2015 #55

If you get Fast Track approved and Jeb Bush gets elected, he and his pile of buttwipes stillwaiting May 2015 #56

Yep, Bush used fast track for his distructive trade deals until it expired in 2007. (nm) Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #57

K & R historylovr May 2015 #51

K & R AzDar May 2015 #59

K&R!!! colsohlibgal May 2015 #64