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Tommy_Carcetti

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21. Another person wasinjured. And there was the potential innocent bystanders could have died as well.

Mon May 4, 2015, 02:03 PM

May 2015

Last edited Mon May 4, 2015, 04:34 PM - Edit history (1)

Had the perpetrators not been immediately killed.

Do we even know if the injured security guard was a member of Gellar's group?

No one excuses the actions of the perpetrators, but in this situation, it is possible to claim that Gellar has at least some responsibility as well.

And if you knew anything about Pam Gellar, you'd know this had absolutely nothing to do with free speech.

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She had to know her actions were provocative against their deeply held beliefs. [View all] Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 OP

It's a shame that people actually defend atrocities like this with statements like that. notadmblnd May 2015 #1

True. DURHAM D May 2015 #2

Thank you! FLPanhandle May 2015 #3

poor lady - and anyone who defends this action shares in the guilt samsingh May 2015 #4

k & r rollin74 May 2015 #5

Nuclear Unicorn, you are culturally insensitive. Yorktown May 2015 #6

Guilty as charged without remorse or apology and certain to be a recidivist. Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #7

Yup. This ^^^^^ nt riderinthestorm May 2015 #8

kick NutmegYankee May 2015 #9

Pm kick nt riderinthestorm May 2015 #10

I doubt she was trying to be provocative for the sake of being provacative. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #11

"Don't even attempt to compare this to Pam Gellar." Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #12

Pam Gellar herself was not attacked. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #13

Pam Gellar was not attacked because the detail officer is an outstanding marksman. Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #15

Another person wasinjured. And there was the potential innocent bystanders could have died as well. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #21

"No one excuses the actions of the perpetrators" except when you excuse the attackers 4 words later. Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #25

"it is impossible to claim that Gellar has at least some responsibility as well" muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #44

Fixed. nt Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #45

And you know why she gets leftynyc May 2015 #30

but in the case of gellar we don't mind. ileus May 2015 #16

It doesn't MATTER if one was 'trying to be provocative'. PeaceNikki May 2015 #14

You're completely missing the point of this entire story. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #17

"Pam Gellar did this in order to elicit a specific reaction." Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #22

Again, if you knew anything about Pam Geller, you'd know what her motives are. nt Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #24

Who has Pam Gellar attacked with physical violence? Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #26

Who did George Bush or Dick Cheney personally attack with physical violence? Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #28

You're claiming Gellar has the power of the Commander in Chief? Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #33

I'm saying that Geller has a bully pulpit. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #37

"And she has used it to her own selfish means." Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #38

Her name could be Bernie Fuckin' Sanders and she'd be just as wrong. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #39

Someone who poses ZERO physical threat has ZERO culpability when violently attacked. Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #40

Sorry, that's the old "her dress was too short" argument. EX500rider May 2015 #43

No, I think *you* are missing the whole point. PeaceNikki May 2015 #23

No shit, it shouldn't be a justification. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #27

Eye. Of. The. Beholder. Dude. PeaceNikki May 2015 #32

Two gay people holding hands do so because it is a personal expression of love. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #34

" it is possible to claim that Gellar has at least some responsibility as well" muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #49

Correction- an anti-Muslim cartoon contest is an act of aggression. Unless you think aggression KittyWampus May 2015 #51

You are clearly being purposely understood. There clearly is no comparison. HERVEPA May 2015 #36

ITA with this post. Ilsa May 2015 #42

To be fair, it's usually religious groups that insult others, for example Westboro Baptist Church Bluenorthwest May 2015 #50

I understand and agree. Ilsa May 2015 #52

+1 FLPanhandle May 2015 #18

She has the right to be provocative, for whatever reason she chooses. n/t pnwmom May 2015 #41

k and r. nt cwydro May 2015 #19

Certainly seems as though a lot more people than merely two terrorists took Gellar's bait. LanternWaste May 2015 #20

Nailed it. nt. NCTraveler May 2015 #29

I see who started this, and I know, there is no discussion closeupready May 2015 #31

IKR!? Rex May 2015 #46

YES get the red out May 2015 #35

So how is merely existing vs. campaiging against Islam the same thing? Rex May 2015 #47

To those who are acting out violently it is the same thing and the results are the same -- Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #48