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In reply to the discussion: "Incremental change" is a Third Way lie. [View all]polichick
(37,152 posts)96. True - but when the WH makes secret deals with big pharma, etc...
Last edited Mon May 11, 2015, 02:34 PM - Edit history (1)
and parties representing the people are left out of talks (like what's happening with the TPP), it's pretty clear where the prez stands.
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Who said a new president is enough to change the system?? No one I know believes
sabrina 1
May 2015
#118
it's not so much that we are conned, it's that by the general election our choice is down to getting
yurbud
May 2015
#24
So what happens to our incremental change/evolution when the eco-system collapses?
jalan48
May 2015
#53
wrong again, but I expect little in the way of facts from a BOG er in his twenties
Doctor_J
May 2015
#123
I think the Tories were begging our Founders for incremental change. "Please don't revolt"
rhett o rick
May 2015
#121
In 2008, we had a Majorities & a window throught which Single Payer could have been passed....
bvar22
May 2015
#132
when you say fan club… are referring to some DU'ers? Cause you then call the fan club
KittyWampus
May 2015
#33
And in the OP - fellating sheep. Way to insult friends and influence no one.
bettyellen
May 2015
#119
They stick the knife in you 9 inches, pull it out six, and tell you they just made your life better.
Ed Suspicious
May 2015
#39
It's all a game to you, isn't it - and it is important to blindly follow your "hero"
NRaleighLiberal
May 2015
#16
Yes, but most are only aware of how presidencies have responded to those social movements
BainsBane
May 2015
#57
Edit: Their mission is to turn the ECONOMIC polocies of the Democratic Party into the
LondonReign2
May 2015
#144
So, you'd be happier with no health care change if we couldn't get single-payer?
brooklynite
May 2015
#18
The con is that "we couldn't' get single-payer" - the WH never wanted to get it...
polichick
May 2015
#19
The delusion is that we could. You can't even outline a way it would have passed.
KittyWampus
May 2015
#37
You are absolutely correct. This man could have achieved anything. ANYTHING! Greatest mandate ever!
Enthusiast
May 2015
#149
Barack Obama banned health insurers from discriminating against pre-existing conditions,
Nye Bevan
May 2015
#25
incremental outcomes are acceptable IF you went balls to the wall for the ideal first
yurbud
May 2015
#26
And they can get away with this because it has been prearranged with the media to never mention
Enthusiast
May 2015
#156
yep. Except it is treated as unremarkable when Republicans pull out all the stops including
yurbud
May 2015
#161
Unfortunately, banks, corporations and wealthy individuals aren't "pragmatic incrementalists".
pa28
May 2015
#30
Unless you are a corporation who has lobbyists and a large donation to make or withhold
dreamnightwind
May 2015
#70
"We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy.."
BrotherIvan
May 2015
#64
Amen: Look at the dramatic changes to this nation from the Patriot Act alone.
BrotherIvan
May 2015
#107
Never mind that Sanders, Warren, FDR and Kennedy all worked to effect change. Often incrementally.
riqster
May 2015
#86