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29. We don't believe him because we have been lied to so many times.

Tue May 12, 2015, 09:40 PM

May 2015

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Sounds like an exact repeat of NATFA, WTO, PNTR, etc....

At some point you realize they will say anything to push these treaties through, including lies.

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Just got an update from my homeslice, Obama... [View all] PosterChild May 2015 OP

Hey Obama - How About Protecting American Workers First Not Second, Third, Or ... Last cantbeserious May 2015 #1

I'll post the quote for the reading impaired ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #4

What part of that folks do not understand is as confusing to me as to you. Fred Sanders May 2015 #21

a whole lot Iliyah May 2015 #77

he has lied repeatedly about the tpp cali May 2015 #25

Kind of like "everyone has to sacrifice Drahthaardogs May 2015 #64

We don't believe him because we have been lied to so many times. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #29

Please point to the lies of THIS president. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #40

here... Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #46

So you've got nothing, huh? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #48

That was lame. Bobbie Jo May 2015 #61

His administration has been very dishonest. Vattel May 2015 #65

As the fact-checker notes ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #68

If you can't address the arguments that are the basis for awarding the pinnochios, Vattel May 2015 #69

He is lying again. 840high May 2015 #51

It hasn't been established that President Obama has lied in the first case. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #54

the President doesn't lie.. but anonymous posters on the internet spew ignorant cheap pot shots Cha May 2015 #55

You have your opinion - I have 840high May 2015 #59

. Go Vols May 2015 #114

Thank you - interesting. 840high May 2015 #115

Then SHOW it to us. And why is Mitch McConnell telling us WHY he is supporting you on this? sabrina 1 May 2015 #121

For those of us who have read the data about NAFTA & its effects on our economy, and are okaawhatever May 2015 #2

Thanks for speaking up... PosterChild May 2015 #9

Canada & Mexico are our number 1 & 2 export countries. They account for 24% of all our exports. Not okaawhatever May 2015 #16

Link please. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #49

Here you go. I also posted several articles that show NAFTA didn't cost jobs. They are further down okaawhatever May 2015 #50

I requested it more as an accessible reference than anything ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #52

Who is afraid of Japan opening up it's high wage, huge economy to American goods? Is fear going Fred Sanders May 2015 #22

Are they not allowed to buy our goods now? How does the TPP change that? arcane1 May 2015 #33

An argument against international investment in America creating jobs, including yours, is not an argument at all. Fred Sanders May 2015 #35

It's evidence that our mutual economies are already quite "open" as-is. arcane1 May 2015 #41

There are currently high tariffs on American cars and some American agriculture products. We okaawhatever May 2015 #56

bullshit cali May 2015 #94

Wow, you almost make me believe brentspeak May 2015 #122

It's a nice letter. DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #3

You, and I, will get to see it when the parties have reached a final agreement ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #11

Thanks for the information ! /nt/ PosterChild May 2015 #19

At which point we are dependent on the TeaPubliKlans to protect out interests for the first time TheKentuckian May 2015 #79

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #105

You will get to see what's in it, PosterChild May 2015 #12

"Join me, and the republicans in congress, in supporting this deal" probably wouldn't sound as good. arcane1 May 2015 #37

Unfortunately those dear friends of his turned out to be the treacherous types. ucrdem May 2015 #5

Damn you Democrats for not voting with Republicans!!!! neverforget May 2015 #14

They voted with the Tbaggers. ucrdem May 2015 #26

Lulz neverforget May 2015 #30

Really? the teabaggers? omz Cha May 2015 #57

Exactly MissDeeds May 2015 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #6

Cute. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #13

Perfect analogy. CharlotteVale May 2015 #20

Remember. Nobody could have predicted the transmission will fall out as soon as it's off the lot. pa28 May 2015 #23

HE CALLED HIMSELF BY HIS NAME AND NOT TITLE?! JaneyVee May 2015 #7

Hey, he's my homeslice . .. PosterChild May 2015 #15

What to make of this!?!!!!!! Cha May 2015 #62

No. just no cali May 2015 #8

The Problem Is... Once Burned Twice Shy... I Don't Believe Him For A Hot Second... WillyT May 2015 #10

Victum of FUD? /nt/ PosterChild May 2015 #17

I Have NO IDEA What FUD Is... WillyT May 2015 #24

It's an acronym for PosterChild May 2015 #31

Thank You !!! - And No Sweat... WillyT May 2015 #38

Ditto MissDeeds May 2015 #39

No, thanks, homie (nt) bigwillq May 2015 #18

Not buying it. SamKnause May 2015 #28

Almost , but not quite as bad as NAFTA... PosterChild May 2015 #44

Let's fix this part-- "95 percent of our potential customers live outside our borders" X_Digger May 2015 #32

No, we can't . ... PosterChild May 2015 #47

aka, "Let's fuck ourselves before China fucks us!" No, thanks. X_Digger May 2015 #67

What would really fuck us over . .. PosterChild May 2015 #116

We're paying better wages than Viet Nam, we have room to lose! Fuck that shit. X_Digger May 2015 #117

"rebounding from the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression" PowerToThePeople May 2015 #34

Mr. President, please stop using the word "progressive." Maedhros May 2015 #36

Seriously, you forgot the sarcasm emoticon. Looks like Republicans have found their wedge issue. Fred Sanders May 2015 #42

+ up! /nt/ PosterChild May 2015 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #43

...^ that 840high May 2015 #53

It's "clear" you have "no fucking idea" how much PROGRESS the President has made in 7 years in Cha May 2015 #63

Here's what Ron Wyden had to say in an email about his vote against TPA Bluenorthwest May 2015 #58

Thank you. 840high May 2015 #60

you will hate him in a few days Iliyah May 2015 #81

Wyden is one of the three TPA-2015 co-sponsors. That's very odd. nt ucrdem May 2015 #82

Reading is fundamental! GeorgeGist May 2015 #104

Mahalo for the letter from Barack, PosterChild.. He doesn't lie. He's earned my trust.. I'll tell Cha May 2015 #66

How about the 44 Democrats in the Senate that voted against the President? Do you trust neverforget May 2015 #70

I trust the President. Cha May 2015 #71

I'll take that as a "no". neverforget May 2015 #72

And you trust the Senate Republicans more than the Senate Democrats, presumably eridani May 2015 #73

Amazing that the poster couldn't answer that question with a simple yes or no. neverforget May 2015 #74

Like I said.. you all can go on and on about trusting the dems, repubs.. whomever.. they haven't Cha May 2015 #76

I have yet to find a politician or a person I agree with 100%. neverforget May 2015 #78

This is always what I have personally believed Liberalynn May 2015 #111

You all can go on and on about the republicons and the dems.. I'm not taking them into Cha May 2015 #75

I agree Iliyah May 2015 #80

As have all the Republican senators who voted in favor? eridani May 2015 #83

The point is that Obama searched for common ground and thought he'd found some ucrdem May 2015 #84

Looking for common ground with today's Republicans is essentially eridani May 2015 #86

Does he have a choice? ucrdem May 2015 #87

Yes. Ignoring the Republicans and using his bully pulpit to attack the oligarchs-- eridani May 2015 #89

...is not what what was elected to do. He didn't run for Columnist in Chief. nt ucrdem May 2015 #92

He was elected by people who thought he would bring changes to improve the lives eridani May 2015 #95

Based on what I've seen of it, I disagree. ucrdem May 2015 #96

What horsesehit. Can we please stop the bullshit pretense that TPP has anything at all to do eridani May 2015 #98

Let me guess, loyal Democracy Now listener? ucrdem May 2015 #100

Whassamatter? No substantive rebuttals? n/t eridani May 2015 #118

I take that as an affirmative. As to your post, ucrdem May 2015 #119

Their spirit is simply that corporate profits trump any public good. eridani May 2015 #120

Here's what Ron Wyden said about his vote: Bluenorthwest May 2015 #106

I read it. It's ... not compelling. nt ucrdem May 2015 #107

Under the bus with the ENITIRE Democratic Senate, except 1. neverforget May 2015 #112

This post will look fairly silly next week when the Demo drop their opposition. Egnever May 2015 #85

I hope you're right. ucrdem May 2015 #88

Oh, I think you are quite correct. And I think this will be the end of me bothering to vote, or djean111 May 2015 #99

Late night Wall Street meeting finally over. TPP Cheerleaders released with orders to invade DU. Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #90

I'm about to start placing these ... these... Republican policy loving DUers Trajan May 2015 #113

If the "trade" part is so very wonderful - why not just separate out the five chapters that actually djean111 May 2015 #91

Because he has a vision of a better world perhaps? ucrdem May 2015 #93

That's great in a movie. What if his vision of a better world is not the one everybody else wants? djean111 May 2015 #97

Corporations have an interest in trade but they're not writing the treaty. ucrdem May 2015 #101

I believe the government-appointed negotiators are from corporations. Be that as it may - djean111 May 2015 #102

It's reasonable. I want to see it too. That's why I'm disappointed that TPA didn't pass. ucrdem May 2015 #103

Ok, I'm on the fence. Quackers May 2015 #108

Here's a pro thread from back in January: ucrdem May 2015 #110

All those words with no facts. grahamhgreen May 2015 #109