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In reply to the discussion: Third Way [View all]BainsBane
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that you need to present it as something else.
You've already threatened to alert on me, and now you want links? I gave you one example in the OP. Another when as a Sanders supporter indicated that Sanders advised a positive approach instead of negative. One member who is posting in this thread called that Third Way. I have seen Marx, fucking Karl Marx, referred to as centrist.
You want the US to be fascist, have at it. Evidently you see something admirable in capitalism that a capitalist state, which is what it is, is not enough to express the fact the state represents capital. I don't give a shit what someone on Huffington Post says. No political scientist will describe the US as fascist, and certainly no one educated in Marxist theory, but I have noticed that very few here read Marx or other leftist political theory.
And really, so what if you don't agree with my observations about the use of Third Way? You wan to call Keith Ellison Third Way, Bernie Sanders supporters, or anything else, that's your problem. It doesn't make it true. And really, why get so agitated over something you are certain doesn't occur?
Third Way is a think tank, an organization. It does not apply to African Americans and LBGT concerned more about civil rights, or ordinary Democratic voters trying to make a living. It is a slur that serves to divide the people and as such serves the interests of capital. People who think they are so holier and thou but spend all of their time, rather than mobilizing against the powerful and money interests, Wall Streets or corporations, attack ordinary Americans, often far less financially fortune that themselves do nothing to undermine power. They reinforce it by actively and deliberately undermining solidarity necessary to challenge entrenched financial interests. But then of course there is no desire to undermine financial interests. The only goal is to create an exclusive club of true believers defined not by position on issues or even candidates they support (which is already trivial), but an in-crowd, no different from a junior high school clique. And here I am--the fat girl, the nerd, the uncool kid--pointing out what I see, piercing an unjustified conviction of superiority.
Search Third Way and Turd Way in the search bar. You'll see plenty of examples. The difference is you think insulting ordinary voters is a true and just cause. How else can capital be protected but by dividing the lower classes and denying its power, even its existence, by pretending fascism is the problem. Fascism fell. Capitalism is far stronger, far more predatory and more successful in its cultural hegemony (Gramsci, Google it).