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qwlauren35

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106. I honestly don't get it.

Mon May 18, 2015, 12:17 PM

May 2015

I have a co-worker who made that argument. I really couldn't understand it. He said a lot of ugly things that were hard to deal with.

That people should be able to get minimum wage jobs at age 16 and then get the skills to get paid more... and anyone who couldn't do that has something wrong with them...

That raising the minimum wage diminishes the value of those already making $15. Why did they push themselves to get ahead only to end up making the same amount as a burger flipper?

Or worse still, people making $15/hour would ask for raises. Like that's a bad thing...

Ironically, he was the only white guy in the room, and the only one with that opinion. It got very nasty. We tried to agree to disagree, but that was not acceptable to him.

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If we raise the minimum wage nobody will even be able to buy a hamburger at McDonalds. [View all] BlueJazz May 2015 OP

Oh Please, don't confuse us with facts! tech3149 May 2015 #1

LOL SoapBox May 2015 #3

In the Southern Hemisphere, money goes down the drain in clockwise fashion. DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #2

Lol! spooky3 May 2015 #27

true rpannier May 2015 #82

I was at a client's office last week MaggieD May 2015 #4

This is a great idea. Wouldn't it be great if everyone did this spooky3 May 2015 #28

Hell, he would just think that it was from people who admire the bastard. olegramps May 2015 #72

You're wrong... Glassunion May 2015 #123

Fast food is unhealthy. undeterred May 2015 #5

That isn't even remotely the point Bettie May 2015 #31

Putting McDonalds out of business is a good thing. undeterred May 2015 #34

So, do you advocate putting Bettie May 2015 #35

No. I advocate a livable minimum wage. undeterred May 2015 #39

So do I Bettie May 2015 #46

Depends on the food. jeff47 May 2015 #73

wait, what? d_r May 2015 #79

Yep. jeff47 May 2015 #80

Yep, you can now. xmas74 May 2015 #117

Very FunnY! ProfessorGAC May 2015 #122

They must be charging more for the drinks! Helen Borg May 2015 #6

..plus they charge you an "Entrance fee" of $6.00. BlueJazz May 2015 #50

Even though this is McDonalds that people are scoffing at BrotherIvan May 2015 #7

And I'd love for some of the $15/hour wage complainers erronis May 2015 #17

Great post, couldn't agree more BrotherIvan May 2015 #29

Unfortunately many of those light bulbs are of very low wattage or burnt out completely Person 2713 May 2015 #49

Internalize propaganda BrotherIvan May 2015 #55

Dumb beliefs perpetuated by a dumb party AZ Progressive May 2015 #8

You laid out a compelling case for demand-side economics Populist_Prole May 2015 #54

If no one could buy a hamburger at Mc Donald's the world would be a better place... ellenrr May 2015 #70

I don't think you could. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #102

1000 rw talk radio stations licensed to operate in the public interest certainot May 2015 #97

Let's assume that were true... Blanks May 2015 #9

Probably neither, just different. I could have used Subway instead. BlueJazz May 2015 #51

no one should be eating hambugers anyway Fast Walker 52 May 2015 #10

OH we ALL have a very very onecent May 2015 #57

Good to know you don't care about the environment or animals. cui bono May 2015 #61

judgemental aren't we??? onecent May 2015 #62

No, I got that directly from your post. cui bono May 2015 #64

Oops I misunderstood.... it makes you more intelligent than I thought...my bad... onecent May 2015 #65

Not that it would make any difference to you but... cui bono May 2015 #66

Yes, they have absolutely nothing else on the menu. jeff47 May 2015 #74

If I had a dime.... Populist_Prole May 2015 #11

This is a good visual, but it's not the whole story thesquanderer May 2015 #12

That is still better than here, where a parent works for minimum wage to try to feed their kids. -none May 2015 #14

The graphic is misleading. Yes, the age structure is better than the US... Purrfessor May 2015 #24

Wrong. Most Americans are ignorant of facts because they get their information thru graphics. Dawgs May 2015 #26

OK, then. If you think it's better to intentionally mislead people... Purrfessor May 2015 #68

What you say is true but for other businesses such as clerks, and workers in the food industry... BlueJazz May 2015 #52

I'm simply addressing the graphic as it appears at the top of this page. Purrfessor May 2015 #69

Isn't that what the anti-living wage crowd says about American minimum wage workers? YoungDemCA May 2015 #18

If adult wages are compared, the difference is very close to what the graphic says it is... Violet_Crumble May 2015 #92

That suggests two more questions. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #103

Meanwhile,...in Germany.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #13

I dunno... GummyBearz May 2015 #37

If they tried to pull that they would face the wrath of a torch bearing mob wearing lederhosen. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #41

Germany has purity laws for beer d_r May 2015 #81

I Had A Beer At A McDonald's In Frankfurt ProfessorGAC May 2015 #124

A DUer familiar with Germany calls it "McScheissBier" KamaAina May 2015 #109

Better than Coors. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #112

I could never understand why Mr.Bill May 2015 #15

Thanks for posting Omaha Steve May 2015 #16

Even if that were true, LWolf May 2015 #19

The more salient comparison... americannightmare May 2015 #20

A lot of objection to this proposal is coming from people who make $16 an hour right now tularetom May 2015 #21

Ain't that the truth! Orrex May 2015 #23

Yup. Same goes with union workers' pensions. SunSeeker May 2015 #36

I honestly don't get it. qwlauren35 May 2015 #106

I have those types where I work too Populist_Prole May 2015 #115

I don't even eat at McDonalds now. Phlem May 2015 #22

Nobody will be able to buy a burger at McD's? JustABozoOnThisBus May 2015 #25

K&R... awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #30

K and R (nt) bigwillq May 2015 #32

Currency difference Nuh Uh May 2015 #33

I was going to point this out GummyBearz May 2015 #38

Read the line at the bottom of the graphic hifiguy May 2015 #40

I went to google. GummyBearz May 2015 #42

"Maybe"? Like where they explicitly say so in the graphic? (nt) jeff47 May 2015 #76

Thats right. GummyBearz May 2015 #85

You find "Wages and prices in US dollars" to be confusing. jeff47 May 2015 #86

Yes, I did GummyBearz May 2015 #88

So you also had trouble with the font displaying usernames, and failed to notice I'm not the OP? -nt jeff47 May 2015 #113

I had no trouble with that GummyBearz May 2015 #114

reply to hifiguy Nuh Uh May 2015 #43

How about you actually read the graphic this time. jeff47 May 2015 #75

"Nuh Uh"? Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #44

The past year, the currency difference has been all over the place. About 2 years ago, the.... BlueJazz May 2015 #53

I went to dinner last night at a pretty nice restaurant. lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #45

But did each of you get a toy in your respecitve happy meals? Orrex May 2015 #47

Heh. Italian... we did get breath mints though. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #48

I feel sorry for anyone Thespian2 May 2015 #56

I get their coffee in the morning. It's pretty good. A lot of other Australian places to eat... BlueJazz May 2015 #59

Yep. Thespian2 May 2015 #60

Golly, if only they had other things on the menu. jeff47 May 2015 #77

Thanks for the link... Thespian2 May 2015 #78

They have a LOT of options. qwlauren35 May 2015 #107

I really think raising minimum wage too high TheFarseer May 2015 #58

How would they automate the jobs? d_legendary1 May 2015 #108

they're already testing touch screens to eliminate order takers TheFarseer May 2015 #116

Har, Har RobinA May 2015 #120

These days college kids follow a different diet d_legendary1 May 2015 #121

Rape the consumer aaand the worker Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #63

Yea, but. Just imagine how the CEO is suffering. Enthusiast May 2015 #67

...and obesity rates drop. L0oniX May 2015 #71

Stop eating McDonald's. Never eat their food. Ever. Until we get fair wages. The Jungle 1 May 2015 #83

not being a troll.. but... TheCrankyLiberal May 2015 #84

I understand. Thanks! BlueJazz May 2015 #87

Thats a little misleading. loooneranger May 2015 #89

The idea, as I posted earlier, is even in retail such as Woolworths stores, Australia offers a... BlueJazz May 2015 #90

Do Aussie stores make up the revenue in other areas? IronLionZion May 2015 #91

Why? KansDem May 2015 #99

Yes they do. As I posted previously. loooneranger May 2015 #104

Austrailian beef is free range The Wizard May 2015 #93

Unlike here, they use real meat on Oz. ChairmanAgnostic May 2015 #94

Actually, that's a mixed blessing swilton May 2015 #95

You had my hopes up n/t Gore1FL May 2015 #96

A Big Mac meal was $3.29 in 2000, $2.99 on sale. tridim May 2015 #98

Yeah, it's more like stockholders won't be able to buy a third yacht deutsey May 2015 #100

Its a bullshit argument particularly when it comes to the fast food industry JonLP24 May 2015 #101

+1 uponit7771 May 2015 #105

Australia does have a subminimum wage for teenagers. KamaAina May 2015 #110

Not where I live. During the school days, very few. BlueJazz May 2015 #111

kick woo me with science May 2015 #118

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #119

Pssssst.... Glassunion May 2015 #125

Great meme Gothmog May 2015 #126