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villager

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7. Some good rebuttals to these anti-regulatory, free-trade economists in the comments
Sat May 23, 2015, 01:22 PM
May 2015

Among the many:

The first question to ask is this. Who said we had to compete with one another for the same jobs in a global economic arena? Furthermore, before any discussion about free trade, we should define what it actually is and how it evolved. It did not evolve any natural economic fashion but was driven by powerful forces outside the will of the people.

Free trade is not trade as historically practiced and defined. It is more about dividing investments from production and moving production outside the country for the sake of cheaper labor costs. Our own Federal Government sponsored moving factories outside of the U.S. starting in 1956. It was the same year the Suez Canal Crisis exposed and international money crisis.

The program was supposed to be temporary to test a system where a few factories would be moved to Mexico for American consumers to enjoy lower prices on products. It never ended. Somewhere along the way, the process was labeled free trade. In the end millions of Americans lost their jobs and businesses. A new working poor class was created. The production workers middle class was destroyed. The value of labor and workers was degraded and deflated. This represents trillions of dollars in value lost forever. Also, the trade deficit which has broken records since 1994 represents trillions of more dollars lost forever.

Then President Obama took office and had to bail out the system to avoid an economic collapse. He borrowed trillions of dollars from the future for the bail out. However, he only bailed our the investment communities, big money interests, banks, Wall Street and the "too big to fail" corporations. He ignored the suffering of millions who lost their jobs and businesses due to free trade economics along with the "too small to save" businesses.

Why would anyone want to keep the failed free trade economic system going?

http://tapsearch.com/free-trade-economics http://tapsearch.com/flatworld
http://tapsearch.com/ray-tapajna-journal

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About the authors: ucrdem May 2015 #1
Research Would Be Interesting To Determine Who Pays For Their Grants cantbeserious May 2015 #5
As Senator Warren Reminded All Last Week - Enforcement Of Trade Rules Is A Joke At Best cantbeserious May 2015 #2
Possibly the joke is on Senator Warren? ucrdem May 2015 #4
Nice Try - No Dice cantbeserious May 2015 #6
As Sen Wyden said after the vote yesterday.. Cha May 2015 #58
That's the main problem with it.... MaggieD May 2015 #37
WaPo is a right wing rag. n/t PowerToThePeople May 2015 #3
Who owns them now? Fuddnik May 2015 #41
Is that the same Jeff Bezos who owns a lot of stuff all around the planet Earth? Octafish May 2015 #50
Some good rebuttals to these anti-regulatory, free-trade economists in the comments villager May 2015 #7
Anyone who thinks TPP is anti-regulatory ucrdem May 2015 #8
So you're one of the few who's actually seen it then? Do tell us more... villager May 2015 #9
Gladly. ucrdem May 2015 #10
Um, no. Those are DU links, not the actual TPP, sorry. villager May 2015 #13
I see, you're not a link-clicker. ucrdem May 2015 #18
so now there is no TPP? villager May 2015 #21
No. If that makes you curious it should. ucrdem May 2015 #23
Just as you've been curious enough to read what's on Wikileaks? villager May 2015 #25
I have and if you'd clicked any of the links you'd know that. ucrdem May 2015 #26
All that linked post provdes is that you -- like the National Review -- have been aplogogizing villager May 2015 #32
You seem very fond of National Review. nt ucrdem May 2015 #45
You're the one recycling their talking points. villager May 2015 #47
I could say the same for you and Senator Sessions (R) AL ucrdem May 2015 #49
You avoid ad hominems!? Which thread are you referring to? villager May 2015 #54
Who said trade wasn't the public will? It goes back to the Phoenicians... TreasonousBastard May 2015 #51
"I think we should eliminate tenure for all professors and flood the US with cheap overseas PhDs... villager May 2015 #11
Notice how they conveniently omit any mention of the "bad parts." PSPS May 2015 #12
That's what apologist OPs like this one have to do, when lipsticking up the latest pigs villager May 2015 #15
LOL that didn't take long. ucrdem May 2015 #30
Hey - if your OP can recycle, nearly verbatim, National Review talking points... villager May 2015 #34
I don't read National Review but if it works for you, great. nt ucrdem May 2015 #36
Apparently it works for you, since you've OP'd the Washington Post version of their talking points villager May 2015 #42
Different authors, different article. Swiftboat fail. nt ucrdem May 2015 #44
same developed, pro-corporate talking points, hatched in the same think tanks, no doubt villager May 2015 #48
Googling up a title doesn't prove anything ucrdem May 2015 #52
Nor does a refusal to see how aligned your points are with theirs villager May 2015 #53
Often the longterm good parts, are good for everyone, even those too myopic to see it. Hoyt May 2015 #33
lol. And there are emininent economists who disagree. And who owns the WaPo? cali May 2015 #14
All good points, among those "conveniently omitted" by the 1%er spokes-folk villager May 2015 #16
Who owns the NYT? ucrdem May 2015 #17
Who owns the President and Congress? villager May 2015 #19
The people who vote. ucrdem May 2015 #22
Hah! You're in high comedic form, this morning. villager May 2015 #24
What would be the incentive for pharmaceutical companies to.... JaneyVee May 2015 #20
Wow an apologist for Big Pharma! BillZBubb May 2015 #31
They are not apologizing for anyone, merely telling the truth. We'd still be waiting for most of Hoyt May 2015 #38
Not at all. Just asking a serious question. JaneyVee May 2015 #39
Evergreening. GeorgeGist May 2015 #59
None. Although it's become popular to demonize... TreasonousBastard May 2015 #46
+1 Hoyt May 2015 #56
They do recoup their investment and profit from quite handsomely to obscenely cali May 2015 #55
People are part of the problem too, demanding the latest drug even it it is just a one a Hoyt May 2015 #57
So, their main argument is protecting corporate assets???? BillZBubb May 2015 #27
"How TPP Would Help America's Working Poor" -- National Review. It's an official rightwing line villager May 2015 #28
You'd be a fool to believe something just because someone notable is supporting it AZ Progressive May 2015 #29
True. The right has climate scientists who dispute global warming as well. BillZBubb May 2015 #35
The right also has Tea-Baggers who hate TPP ucrdem May 2015 #43
Things going on that you don't know... kentuck May 2015 #40
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