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PETRUS

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24. You made two assertions.

Reply to LittleBlue (Reply #23)

Sat Jun 6, 2015, 01:59 PM

Jun 2015

Although I'm not a fan, Mao's program lifted more people out of poverty in a shorter amount of time than any other system ever has. (Also, capitalism's record on poverty is mixed - it has lifted people out of monetary poverty but thrown others into abject poverty.)

Human nature probably hasn't changed much over the millennia, but the systems in place now were unimaginable in the past. There is no reason to think something else isn't possible.

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Ursula K. Le Guin Calls on Fantasy and Sci Fi Writers to Envision Alternatives to Capitalism [View all] KamaAina Jun 2015 OP

Interesting! demmiblue Jun 2015 #1

I love this woman. LWolf Jun 2015 #2

She has been ahead of the curve for decades hifiguy Jun 2015 #3

LeGuin is an astute political writer. Thanks for bringing this in. nt Hekate Jun 2015 #4

I've been looking Fairgo Jun 2015 #5

The Dispossessed is a must-read. MH1 Jun 2015 #11

K&R! myrna minx Jun 2015 #6

I wonder how much money she has made from capitalism NobodyHere Jun 2015 #7

Better questions. PETRUS Jun 2015 #14

+1 LWolf Jun 2015 #19

That's a religious question, and the religion is capitalism. hunter Jun 2015 #18

Does it have to include heroes and dragons? I hope not. nt valerief Jun 2015 #8

Ursula Le Guin is a treasure. She has written some of the most amazing stories ever. scarletwoman Jun 2015 #9

The Left Hand of Darkness was so completely minimalist KamaAina Jun 2015 #12

Maybe not as overt a political message as "The Dispossed", however scarletwoman Jun 2015 #15

I completely missed that KamaAina Jun 2015 #20

Indeed Fritz Walter Jun 2015 #16

Tax the Rich seveneyes Jun 2015 #10

How about Augiedog Jun 2015 #13

She's had a rather large influence on my thinking about politics and the economy. hunter Jun 2015 #17

I don't think one exists LittleBlue Jun 2015 #21

Nothing in your post is true. nt PETRUS Jun 2015 #22

Everything I wrote is true. You don't know our own history LittleBlue Jun 2015 #23

You made two assertions. PETRUS Jun 2015 #24

The reduction in poverty in China happened after Mao muriel_volestrangler Jun 2015 #25

Both things are true. PETRUS Jun 2015 #28

How many were lifted out under Mao? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2015 #29

That's a fair question. PETRUS Jun 2015 #32

But the thing is that post-1981 China might be called 'capitalist' muriel_volestrangler Jun 2015 #33

A few things: PETRUS Jun 2015 #34

The greatest modern movement out of poverty came in the last 30 years LittleBlue Jun 2015 #26

Two things. PETRUS Jun 2015 #30

Might I suggest Democratic Socialism? We already have it with the schools, and libraries and libdem4life Jun 2015 #27

Tough sell Scootaloo Jun 2015 #31