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In reply to the discussion: frankly, what I think we're doing here, is documenting the last gasps of democracy. Updated [View all]cali
(114,904 posts)283. here you go, girl
The dismantling of election law governing political donations and transparency. The post 2010 gerrymandering in republican states- and most states are controlled by republicans. The dismantling of the FEC. The gutting of the Voting Rights Act. The successful Republican initiatives in state after state that make voting more difficult for minorities, young people and the elderly.
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frankly, what I think we're doing here, is documenting the last gasps of democracy. Updated [View all]
cali
Jun 2015
OP
Yep--nothing like a good "don't blame me, I can't do anything about it" excuse
brooklynite
Jun 2015
#33
I said nothing about the issues....I disputed the "last gasps of Democracy"
brooklynite
Jun 2015
#131
John D. MacDonald had a great description of the remora in one of his books.
malthaussen
Jun 2015
#318
It's crazy that anyone believes a corporate made computerized vote counting machine is honest.
C Moon
Jun 2015
#269
Yep, I recall when that Russian professor said that some years ago and I thought he was correct.
RKP5637
Jun 2015
#88
Then we need to push to close and empty military bases in red states ;) nt
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Jun 2015
#201
I think this is so, esp. the wide gulf between the 2 opposing ideologies which I
appalachiablue
Jun 2015
#125
I know for a fact that I am not presently in an area that will end up Blue
Horse with no Name
Jun 2015
#198
well I was referring to our country, but in the longer term I think it's endangered
cali
Jun 2015
#11
Exactly. They must drive us to despair slowly so we each pound on the castle door one at a time
GoneFishin
Jun 2015
#253
We can't even get people to understand that we need to change how our government works. Many are
rhett o rick
Jun 2015
#157
We have to shake up the system. HRC stands for more of the same. Those that are comfortable
rhett o rick
Jun 2015
#237
You are right about our MN elected officials - except of course Michelle Bachmann and Tim
jwirr
Jun 2015
#257
I so much agree. I will be watching the titanic sink ...mostly because I loved the movie.
L0oniX
Jun 2015
#16
If Hillary is the Nominee. I will not be bothering to vote, nor will I plan to
Katashi_itto
Jun 2015
#24
Have you noticed how easy anymore for people to say your not a democrat when you will
Katashi_itto
Jun 2015
#18
Almost inspires a click of the bootheals and a straight-armed salute, doesn't it?
FiveGoodMen
Jun 2015
#154
I don't know who ever though unlimited growth on a finite planet was a good idea,
CrispyQ
Jun 2015
#316
you realize that statistically the candidate with the most money wins the vast majority
cali
Jun 2015
#77
I think you're probably right...democracy is in clear decline, and not just here in the USA...
First Speaker
Jun 2015
#32
Corporate elites have never been fond of Democracy and these free trade agreements are a
octoberlib
Jun 2015
#35
". I don't want to face a future generation " < You won't. You will be dead and so will they.
jtuck004
Jun 2015
#68
I don't think that any of us are saying we surrender. But we do recognize that we are up against
jwirr
Jun 2015
#38
Multinational corporations and the rethugs. Their claws are deep into us already.
jwirr
Jun 2015
#59
Thank you. The materialism got its hold on us long ago and they have been teaching us to accept
jwirr
Jun 2015
#80
Frankly, I think democracy and capitalism faded in the 80s when a plutocracy took over
Rex
Jun 2015
#51
As it continues, that is basically what is going to have to happen for survival. The economy is
RKP5637
Jun 2015
#69
Indeed. I find the analogy that the President is the CEO of the country to be appalling. n/t
RufusTFirefly
Jun 2015
#119
Cali, it hasn't been a democracy since the first people walked away from "one big union". n/t
jtuck004
Jun 2015
#71
Probably not democracy, but liberalism - yes. You can have a democracy even if only the 1% can vote.
LiberalArkie
Jun 2015
#74
"frankly, what I think we're doing here, is documenting the last gasps of capitalism."
Spitfire of ATJ
Jun 2015
#99
Yes, we're having to refight too many battles that we thought we had won in the '60s.
Blue_In_AK
Jun 2015
#104
Absolutely! What's being discussed in this thread is a reflection of a global process.
GliderGuider
Jun 2015
#170
Totally agree. We are not just facing the end of capitalism - that is bad enough but then we must
jwirr
Jun 2015
#263
Fascism is closing its talons around us, and the trains don't even run on time.
Arugula Latte
Jun 2015
#110
Serious props for the historical allusion to Mussolini and the deeper truth your
KingCharlemagne
Jun 2015
#202
The National Security State. We've gone from idealism to fear and not by accident.
jalan48
Jun 2015
#117
Imagine it's 1812, and the British have just burnt down the White House. It would feel like the end
grahamhgreen
Jun 2015
#128
Would you care to expand on that? I love America, I love Mother, I love apple pie.
rhett o rick
Jun 2015
#235
" By working hard to elect people who can make a difference...". Did you type that
rhett o rick
Jun 2015
#262
Imo it's due to entering stage iii capitalism where in capitalism goes cannibalistic
HereSince1628
Jun 2015
#136
People don't realize we're on the edge, every time we knuckle under Democracy is lost,
orpupilofnature57
Jun 2015
#152
That and the ' Patriot Act ' and you know the TPP will starve people in to
orpupilofnature57
Jun 2015
#169
I disagree. Democracy is easy when you have resouces. When Goldman-Sachs and Wall Street
rhett o rick
Jun 2015
#167
How far do you think we will sink before the idiots wake up and smell the plutocratic-oligarchy. nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2015
#236
I'd like not to agree that we are documenting the last gasp of democracy, but . . .
Jack Rabbit
Jun 2015
#178
We can all blame the Politicians, the Lobbyists, The Big Money Koch Bros factor BUT it starts
truedelphi
Jun 2015
#181
The quoting of Mencken perfectly demonstrates the shallow thinking of the negative minded.
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#233
Nice personal attack there, sport. You made the citation, and what I say stands about what
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#243
Poining out that Mencken was a racist bigot and literally an anti democratic elitist who favored
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#300
Pessimism is an elitist habit, for the affluent and the fully franchised. The rest need hope.
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#241
Beautiful quote from Howard Zinn. Thank you for lighting a candle instead of cursing the darkness.nt
Hekate
Jun 2015
#260
Yes, elitism has a blind appeal. Look at the chosen verbiage in this thread. It's all about self
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#301
Fear. Uncertainty. Doubt. I have to ask wtf are any of you doing at a place like this?
Hekate
Jun 2015
#251
I'd like to respond to your elegiac OP with . . . what else? . . . a poem:
KingCharlemagne
Jun 2015
#266
"Don't waste any time in mourning. Organize" - Joe Hill to Big Bill Haywood
struggle4progress
Jun 2015
#273
Representative democracy has turned into an oligarchy and even that will soon be replaced
CJCRANE
Jun 2015
#297
Not one single voting machine in my State, every ballot is paper, every voter can make a fucking
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#308
If it wasn't so, why the Permawar RW Surveillance State that remains no matter who we vote in?
Octafish
Jun 2015
#302
We are watching the inevitable full assimilation of the Democratic party into the War/Money Party.
leveymg
Jun 2015
#309
Like a infection - if intervention doesn't occur, it will spread and kill the whole body.
Avalux
Jun 2015
#320
You are not alone, by a long shot. We are in the last gasps of Democracy. And we have one chance to
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#321
Is separating "Social" from the "Economic" a horseman of the oligarchic apocalypse?
daredtowork
Jun 2015
#328
unfortunately too many people believe that electing Hillary Clinton is somehow
Doctor_J
Jun 2015
#342
last gasps of the American experiment. self government is still thriving in northern Europe
Doctor_J
Jun 2015
#341
Sadly, the psychopaths are winning, because they are bullies, thieves, liars, abusers and killers.
Dont call me Shirley
Jun 2015
#343