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hunter

(38,412 posts)
59. It's complicated, not binary.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:10 PM
Jun 2015

People who don't want or need sex, no problem. Some people have no strong sex drive.

People who supress their own sexual desires, good or bad, it depends on where they divert that energy. Unfortunately, it's frequently a bad place, but some people do manage to make it good as artists, humanitarians, protectors of animals, the natural world, and the like.

People whose sexual desires are repressed by self and society, that's sad, and very often bad. Think of any number of "conservative" politicians and preachers who have self-destructed.

The only people who ought to be restricted from acting on their sexual desires are those who have crossed the line and preyed upon children and non-consenting adults. People like that need to be removed from ordinary society, locked away in some humane prison where they can't harm the rest of us. But unless they've crossed that line, some sort of help ought to be available to them, to keep them out of trouble and to channel that dark energy into something positive.

I had this weird sad memory resurface in my mind a few nights ago, which often happens to me. Off-my-meds I'll obsess about such things until I'm a sleepless wreck. But I'm on meds and simply thought "that's interesting" and went back to sleep.

Anyways, I had an English major friend in college, he's married now with kids, who'd wanted me to listen to some poetry he'd written "for his girlfriend."

It was pretty damned hot and erotic.

Shortly after (this being the incident I'd remembered decades later in the middle of the night) he'd hit on me while we were both taking a piss in a public restroom. Not erotic to me in any way, I wasn't going to have sex with anyone in a public restroom no matter how gifted a poet they were, especially him. But I'd recalled I was very kind rejecting his advances. His poetry was good. I haven't recognized any of his poetry since. If he's still writing it's deeply in the closet.

That's what I mean by sad.

A distant memory from me resurfacing. Just a sigh.

Myself, I've very lightly fictionalized (names changed to protect both the innocent and the guilty) most worst of my PTSD inducing experiences, sometimes here on DU.

This was not one of those experiences.

I try not to be my mom. Her parents were both west coast shipyard workers in World War II. Her "daycare providers" were hookers by night. Her mom was a second shift dancer and party girl. When my mom gets a little tipsy and starts telling stories it's best to hide. My mom's mom was insane. Her only comprehension of this world was hot metal, horny sailors, and difficult horses and dogs. But she did protect the children, even me, my siblings, and my mom, in her own peculiar manner.






Poll: Sex, a need or a want? [View all] PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 OP
A want joward stern Jun 2015 #1
Without it none of us would be here Fumesucker Jun 2015 #2
Tell this gal. valerief Jun 2015 #40
Yes. KamaAina Jun 2015 #3
Need to continue the species. As an individual though, want. uppityperson Jun 2015 #4
In general or me, personally? wyldwolf Jun 2015 #5
I like waffles. Katashi_itto Jun 2015 #6
I just cooked up some buckwheat pancakes tonight. They were a want, definitely valerief Jun 2015 #42
Lol. Agschmid Jun 2015 #60
Both a floor wax, *and* a dessert topping. nt MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #7
Hilarious :) Aerows Jun 2015 #19
Sex Koinos Jun 2015 #8
Sex Free For Twenty Years - A Want cantbeserious Jun 2015 #9
Free for twenty years??? How much was it before that? ret5hd Jun 2015 #14
I'm 32, so that makes it 32 years for me :) nt LostOne4Ever Jun 2015 #58
That explains a lot. Agschmid Jun 2015 #61
Seems to be pretty high on Maslow's index hifiguy Jun 2015 #10
Thank you for referencing a "silly" scientist. PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #11
There are far, far too many people here who "believe" without bothering to hifiguy Jun 2015 #12
+2 LittleBlue Jun 2015 #41
Yup. Agschmid Jun 2015 #62
As a basic need it is definitely controversial. joshcryer Jun 2015 #73
Sex is a need. That being a said, sex with another person is a desire that can Exilednight Jun 2015 #13
JOKE! Skittles Jun 2015 #57
Both The2ndWheel Jun 2015 #15
No one is entitled to have another person be available for them for sex gollygee Jun 2015 #16
The point is not PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #18
Assuming you can find someone to consent gollygee Jun 2015 #20
Love and intimacy is considered an important need in Maslow's hierarchy davidn3600 Jun 2015 #32
Two things gollygee Jun 2015 #34
Re #2 hifiguy Jun 2015 #36
I'm not ascribing anything to anyone gollygee Jun 2015 #37
Nobody is entitled to food The2ndWheel Jun 2015 #66
Yeah they are gollygee Jun 2015 #78
That's different than what I said The2ndWheel Jun 2015 #81
Our society recognizes a need for food and feels we are entitled to it gollygee Jun 2015 #84
I would agree The2ndWheel Jun 2015 #89
Exactly, that is how prostitution came about treestar Jun 2015 #98
I'm pretty sure there are 'sex banks' and 'sex stamps.' appal_jack Jun 2015 #90
In my original reply gollygee Jun 2015 #91
just havin' fun, gollygee! nt appal_jack Jun 2015 #97
The planet gives us food treestar Jun 2015 #96
Well if it were a true need, like food treestar Jun 2015 #94
but then you are adding in love and intimacy treestar Jun 2015 #93
Sex is required for reproduction of the species davidn3600 Jun 2015 #99
I don't think I disagreed treestar Jun 2015 #100
Both madokie Jun 2015 #17
+1 Rex Jun 2015 #35
Are we talking with or without the trapeze swing and feather duster? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #21
:) PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #23
I'm just asking for a friend Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #30
That reminded me of a line variously attributed to a number of comics hifiguy Jun 2015 #27
At my age? safeinOhio Jun 2015 #22
For some people it is a need. MadrasT Jun 2015 #24
It depends upon what the meaning of the word "is" is. betsuni Jun 2015 #25
A legitimate query, for sure! cheapdate Jun 2015 #64
Hell, for some people micro-managing the consenting adult choices of others seems to be a "need" Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #26
Preach it, brother. hifiguy Jun 2015 #28
I do enjoy thumping the pulpit from time to time! Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #29
So that's what the kids are calling it these days. bluesbassman Jun 2015 #69
! hunter Jun 2015 #85
+1 NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #50
calling it a "need" is all too often used to justify rotten behavior. unblock Jun 2015 #31
+1 laundry_queen Jun 2015 #38
Yes, precisely. The government has the right to distribute food and water, because Yo_Mama Jun 2015 #48
In order to be a happy person? TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2015 #33
Yes. H2O Man Jun 2015 #39
A want obviously Omnith Jun 2015 #43
A want (but incredibly strong want) for the individual, a need for society Shoulders of Giants Jun 2015 #44
I want and need it. bigwillq Jun 2015 #45
This thread isn't nearly as big a train wreck as I would have predicted. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #46
Indeed. The usual crowd of bomb-throwers hifiguy Jun 2015 #49
Quite a few of them are temporarily gone... Agschmid Jun 2015 #63
Deservedly do. Some should be permanently gone. hifiguy Jun 2015 #67
Still is, you just have to tell the right people. Agschmid Jun 2015 #68
Oh here, let me shake that up a bit for ya then. underahedgerow Jun 2015 #54
Masturbation is a separate thing, but sex with other people is a want, not a need Yo_Mama Jun 2015 #47
Maslow seems to think otherwise. hifiguy Jun 2015 #51
Do people "need" the things that make the difference between mere survival and living? Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #55
IMO, need equates with what is essential for survival BainsBane Jun 2015 #71
Maybe. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #72
Of course it can BainsBane Jun 2015 #74
I'm sure they invoke all kinds of things, as justification. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #76
And historically this has been the position in many cultures. Yo_Mama Jun 2015 #80
But it does have an easy solution kcr Jun 2015 #83
Today it is a want sarisataka Jun 2015 #52
Baby I'm a want you, baby I'm a need you. N/t Whiskeytide Jun 2015 #53
2 outa 3 ain't bad. n/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #65
Depends on the person LostOne4Ever Jun 2015 #56
It's complicated, not binary. hunter Jun 2015 #59
Thanks for that angle. joshcryer Jun 2015 #75
I think there's probably an instinctual aspect to sex. joshcryer Jun 2015 #70
I don't know about sex, but I do know that children need to feel loved and cared for and JDPriestly Jun 2015 #77
They call it sexual desire which is a want liberal N proud Jun 2015 #79
If it's more than a want then you should probably see a psychiatrist. Arkana Jun 2015 #82
I'm not dead. dawg Jun 2015 #86
It felt like a need when I was younger. Now it's more of a want. closeupready Jun 2015 #87
Want. You won't die if deprived of sex, so there's no need. Quackers Jun 2015 #88
Since we won't die without it treestar Jun 2015 #92
Both Glassunion Jun 2015 #95
Let's see.... Stellar Jun 2015 #101
Scary to see those who argue it is a need KitSileya Jun 2015 #102
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