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In reply to the discussion: Of Bullshit Meters and our current politicians [View all]DanTex
(20,709 posts)61. "I've made it very clear that I made a mistake, plain and simple"
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hillary-clinton-mistake-iraq-war
So now you know.
You claimed that she agrees with the GOP on a lot, but as I pointed out, when you actually look at the issues, this is completely false. She disagrees with them on practically everything. The one large counterexample is the IWR, which she admits is a mistake, and she also voted against the troop surge late in the Bush administration.
But across the board, taxes, minimum wage, global warming, healthcare, social security, equal pay, etc. They are on opposite sides of all of them. And this is why Hillary-bashers don't want to talk about actual issues.
And, I'm right. Saying that "bankers and financiers love her" is stupid, because bankers, like all other kinds of people, have a wide range of opinions. There are some financiers like George Soros and Tom Steyer who champion progressive causes. There are others like Steven Schwartzman who champion conservative causes. And so there are some bankers who like Hillary, and others who hate her. And then there are people like Blankfein who are somewhere in the middle, saying he would be OK with either.
You're not the only person who hates Hillary with a burning passion because you saw a picture of her next to Lloyd Blankfein or Henry Kissinger. In fact, people like you -- who ignore the issues and instead make the whole thing personal -- is exactly who the GOP has in mind when they spend money trying to get Democrats to bash Hillary from the left. They're looking for people who ignore policy and substance. And evidently there are a lot of those people, at least on DU.
So now you know.
You claimed that she agrees with the GOP on a lot, but as I pointed out, when you actually look at the issues, this is completely false. She disagrees with them on practically everything. The one large counterexample is the IWR, which she admits is a mistake, and she also voted against the troop surge late in the Bush administration.
But across the board, taxes, minimum wage, global warming, healthcare, social security, equal pay, etc. They are on opposite sides of all of them. And this is why Hillary-bashers don't want to talk about actual issues.
The point you are trying to avoid is that the bankers and financiers on Wall Street love her. Goldman-Sachs has given her cash money for her personal fortune to tell them that she thinks picking on the banks is foolish.
And, I'm right. Saying that "bankers and financiers love her" is stupid, because bankers, like all other kinds of people, have a wide range of opinions. There are some financiers like George Soros and Tom Steyer who champion progressive causes. There are others like Steven Schwartzman who champion conservative causes. And so there are some bankers who like Hillary, and others who hate her. And then there are people like Blankfein who are somewhere in the middle, saying he would be OK with either.
You're not the only person who hates Hillary with a burning passion because you saw a picture of her next to Lloyd Blankfein or Henry Kissinger. In fact, people like you -- who ignore the issues and instead make the whole thing personal -- is exactly who the GOP has in mind when they spend money trying to get Democrats to bash Hillary from the left. They're looking for people who ignore policy and substance. And evidently there are a lot of those people, at least on DU.
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So Thom Hartmann and Bernie are borrowing money for their girlfriends according to
navarth
Jun 2015
#40
...which, of course, derives from Dr. Curly Howard's pioneering work in the field.
Buns_of_Fire
Jun 2015
#66
I think the person that pretends to be liberal while all the time believes in the
rhett o rick
Jun 2015
#47
Good point. E.g. "Hillary is no better than a Republican" sends the BS meter off the chart.
DanTex
Jun 2015
#15
HRC is better than a Republicon for a few social issues, but she pretty much agrees with
rhett o rick
Jun 2015
#48
Aha. So it has nothing to do with policy whatsoever. Glad we have that established.
DanTex
Jun 2015
#53
Hillary will do a couple of really good things if elected, much like Obama, but
Dustlawyer
Jun 2015
#56
Let's start with her betraying Democrats, Americans and one million dead Iraqi's when
rhett o rick
Jun 2015
#58
I don't like H. Clinton because she betray us in favor of George Bush and the Republicons.
rhett o rick
Jun 2015
#62
How does she stand on regulating the banks? Maybe bringing back Glass-Steagall.
rhett o rick
Jun 2015
#64
She supports the reforms in Dodd-Frank, although she wasn't in congress to vote for them.
DanTex
Jun 2015
#65
The problem with the TPP is that the politicians only discuss the trade part, which
rhett o rick
Jun 2015
#67
You said it. Every day it becomes more and more obvious that people were just waiting for someone to
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#33
Yes, exactly. And many of those people have decided to take care of their own shit and ignore
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#36